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"Americans are very lucky people...." (Original Post) babylonsister Oct 2013 OP
There is such a thing as former Republicans treestar Oct 2013 #1
Ha! Lots of them, and more are being created babylonsister Oct 2013 #2
Yes. They are called Democrats. RC Oct 2013 #3
The whole world took a step to the right pnwmom Oct 2013 #4
It has not treestar Oct 2013 #6
The Republicans have moved to the far Right, that is true. RC Oct 2013 #7
The Democrats have not moved to the right treestar Oct 2013 #8
Yeah sure, it's all the Republicans fault. RC Oct 2013 #9
Again, you are talking about bargains treestar Oct 2013 #10
The solution is fewer 3rd Way, DLC, DINO's and other Republican Lite.. RC Oct 2013 #11
No the solution is fewer rabid Republicans treestar Oct 2013 #12
Sad, isn’t it? … 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2013 #14
Love, love love this picture and sentiment. freshwest Oct 2013 #5
Kicking because I love seeing it that much. freshwest Nov 2013 #13
 

RC

(25,592 posts)
3. Yes. They are called Democrats.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 08:23 PM
Oct 2013

Because the Democratic Party has moved so far to the Right.

pnwmom

(109,511 posts)
4. The whole world took a step to the right
Reply to RC (Reply #3)
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 08:31 PM
Oct 2013

with the collapse of the Soviet Union and the liberalization of China.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
6. It has not
Reply to RC (Reply #3)
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 07:01 AM
Oct 2013

It is pro choice, pro immigration reform, in favor of women's rights, gay rights, a social safety net. The Republicans are the ones that moved "far to the right." You're simply kvetching that the Democrats are dealing with these new Republicans and the results aren't to your liking. Not to my liking either. But the Tea Party is rabid and fanatic and doesn't just sit back and complain, and thus they win enough elections to have some leverage.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
7. The Republicans have moved to the far Right, that is true.
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 08:34 AM
Oct 2013

But there is no gap between the Republicans and the Democrats, because the Democratic Leadership has moved over to the Right to fill that gap, dragging the Democratic Party and the country with it. The Democratic party now consists of the DLC, DINO's 3rd Way, New Democrats and former Republicans that have not changed their politics, because the Democratic Party has moved rightward to them.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
8. The Democrats have not moved to the right
Reply to RC (Reply #7)
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 11:45 AM
Oct 2013

There is nothing on the platform any further to the right than there was in 1980. It is simply harder to accomplish it, due to the rabid nature of the Republicans.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
9. Yeah sure, it's all the Republicans fault.
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 12:43 PM
Oct 2013

Extending bu$h's tax cuts, bailing out the big money, over Main Street, the Chained CPI, Drones blowing up people in countries we are not at war with. This Administrations war against whistle blowers. The ACA was born in the Right wing think tank, the Heritage Foundation. Even the Public Option was nixed.
It is those already to the Right of Center that think the Democrats have not moved to the Right.

Democrats Have Moved to the Right, Not the Left

The Democrats, as far as I can see, have moved from their 40-yard-line to midfield, or their opponents' 45. As recently as the Clinton presidency, Democrats actively pushed for gun control, defence budgets under 3% of GDP, banning oil exploration off America's Atlantic and Pacific coasts, a public option or single-payer solution to universal health insurance, and...well, Clinton-era progressive income-tax rates. Today these positions have all been abandoned. And we're talking about positions held under Bill Clinton, a "third way" leader who himself moved Democratic ideology dramatically to the right, the guy responsible for "ending welfare as we know it". Since then, Democrats have moved much further yet to the right, in the fruitless search for a compromise with a Republican Party that sees compromise itself as fundamentally evil. The obvious example is that the Democrats in 2010 literally passed the universal health-insurance reform that had been proposed by the GOP opposition in the Clinton administration, only to find today's GOP vilifying it as a form of Leninist socialist totalitarianism.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/05/democrats-have-moved-right-not-left


Don't forget to read the comments.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
10. Again, you are talking about bargains
Reply to RC (Reply #9)
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 12:47 PM
Oct 2013

to keep the government open, etc., due to rabid nature of the Republicans and their use of procedure. It does not mean Democrats stand for those things, but they were forced into them. The solution is fewer Republicans in office.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
12. No the solution is fewer rabid Republicans
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 01:10 PM
Oct 2013

Look at what they were able to do with the debt ceiling and shutdown. None of the sinners you mention in your subject line would have done that.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
14. Sad, isn’t it? …
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:56 PM
Nov 2013

I’m afraid there remains a fundamental lack of knowledge with respect to governing.

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