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sheshe2

(87,272 posts)
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 08:58 PM Oct 2013

This Shutdown isn’t about Obamacare…it’s about OBAMA

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THAT is why, when one looks back at the list of accomplishments by President Obama in his first term in office..




They were done WITHOUT GOP votes.

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This country has been forced to run itself on continuing resolutions.

The President said the other day that the two things the House of Representatives are charged with are the following:
1. Produce a budget
2. Pay the bills the United States runs up

And, they have DELIBERATELY been AWOL with both duties.

The party that inherited a BUDGET SURPLUS from Bill Clinton and didn’t two shyts about budget deficits as they:
1. Lied us into not one, but TWO wars that were kept ‘ off the books’
2. Put in place tax cuts during wartime – something NEVER EVER done before
3. Put in place the unpaid for Medicare Part D


The Rest Here.

http://3chicspolitico.com/2013/10/10/this-shutdown-isnt-about-obamacare-its-about-obama/


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This Shutdown isn’t about Obamacare…it’s about OBAMA (Original Post) sheshe2 Oct 2013 OP
yup gopiscrap Oct 2013 #1
Thanks, gopicrap! sheshe2 Oct 2013 #3
Been clear as glass since Day One to anybody who'd open his eyes and admit it. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #2
So true... sheshe2 Oct 2013 #4
Despite its destructive power, hate is weak because it's built on a rotten frame. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #5
... BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #11
The stench from them is telling Irish sheshe2 Oct 2013 #18
Nightmarish but excellent painting nonetheless. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #38
You devil you~ sheshe2 Oct 2013 #39
The tea party isn't upset that the government is in the red... Salviati Oct 2013 #6
Bingo, Salviati! sheshe2 Oct 2013 #9
*snarf* BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #10
Very good! calimary Oct 2013 #26
Oh yeah.. they really don't like the President and Obamacare Cha Oct 2013 #7
They underestimate him every damn time! sheshe2 Oct 2013 #23
that puts it clearly, doesn't it? BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #8
Dantes Inferno by Bosch~ The Last Judgement sheshe2 Oct 2013 #14
I do love Heironymous. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #17
Can you read my future from them Blanche? sheshe2 Oct 2013 #19
A bit of prose I found before I joined DU. freshwest Oct 2013 #28
From the light into the darkest night... sheshe2 Oct 2013 #30
I'll let you know when I find them. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #37
The GOP needs an exorcism! freshwest Oct 2013 #20
O.M.G.! sheshe2 Oct 2013 #25
Ditto to all the yups. SoapBox Oct 2013 #12
Yup yup yup Maynar Oct 2013 #15
Of course it is! mountain grammy Oct 2013 #13
Wonderful. Well done, Barack Obama! freshwest Oct 2013 #16
A great and powerful man, sheshe2 Oct 2013 #22
This video should be used every time anyone says Obama didn't keep his promises. freshwest Oct 2013 #29
Bingo! Rhiannon12866 Oct 2013 #21
They hate him because Obama's Isoldeblue Oct 2013 #24
Did Bush II add $10.6T to Total Public Debt? ffr Oct 2013 #27
I wish it were just that simple. zeemike Oct 2013 #31
Guess what... sheshe2 Oct 2013 #32
Well I would like to believe that. zeemike Oct 2013 #35
Yes, but it's more than that, and if you forget it you'll just set up another one JHB Oct 2013 #33
Watching the tail end of TRMS 2008 video leaves me with a pit in my stomach ffr Oct 2013 #34
Thom Hartmann GOP needs exorcisim polynomial Oct 2013 #36

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
2. Been clear as glass since Day One to anybody who'd open his eyes and admit it.
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 09:34 PM
Oct 2013

But they don't want to do that, do they? Thank God not everybody's so blind.

sheshe2

(87,272 posts)
4. So true...
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 09:52 PM
Oct 2013

Yet he defies them every single time. They are weak and we are getting stronger by the day, Irish!

sheshe2

(87,272 posts)
18. The stench from them is telling Irish
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 10:42 PM
Oct 2013


Two monstrous cooks prepare the greedy in this detail from “Last Judgement Triptych” Akademie der bildenden Künste, Vienna.

http://daydreamtourist.com/2013/05/06/bosch/

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
38. Nightmarish but excellent painting nonetheless.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 09:34 AM
Oct 2013

BTW, did I ever tell you about the time I got turned down for a job strictly on the basis of my SS#? HR looked at me and said w/o blinking an eye, "You meet and even exceed our requirements, but your social has too many 6's in a row." That was in AZ.

I've heard it all.

Salviati

(6,037 posts)
6. The tea party isn't upset that the government is in the red...
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 10:22 PM
Oct 2013

... they're upset that the black is in the government.

calimary

(84,190 posts)
26. Very good!
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 11:09 PM
Oct 2013

I've read the op/eds that argue that this is basically the South attempting to re-litigate the Civil War. I believe one writer who described himself as an ex-GOPer called it "neo-Confederate insurrectionists." So many of these essays wind up tracing the problem back to its source: racism. Also - the growing realization and accompanying outrage over the demographic changes taking place from coast to coast, in which non-whites are becoming more numerous while white (especially while male) demographic dominance is steadily shrinking as a power base. And as their fury and resentment grows, some of 'em start acting out.

sheshe2

(87,272 posts)
23. They underestimate him every damn time!
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 10:56 PM
Oct 2013

They are weak and we are strong. Give us one day...we get stronger still. They damned well will not beat us!

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
8. that puts it clearly, doesn't it?
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 10:25 PM
Oct 2013

May the pukes rot in the cesspool they create. Couldn't happen to a more deserving herd of mutants.

sheshe2

(87,272 posts)
14. Dantes Inferno by Bosch~ The Last Judgement
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 10:36 PM
Oct 2013


Bosch Last Judgement
The damned have long been hounded by devils in European Last Judgement scenes, but only Bosch created platypus-faced and walking head monsters who carry souls like wild game. Detail from “Last Judgement Triptych” Akademie der bildenden Künste, Vienna.

http://daydreamtourist.com/2013/05/06/bosch/

It does Blanche, it truly does.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
17. I do love Heironymous.
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 10:39 PM
Oct 2013

That reminds me...I've got a set of Boschean tarot cards lurking around here somewhere....

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
28. A bit of prose I found before I joined DU.
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 11:12 PM
Oct 2013
Republicans serve The Beast.

From the dawn of mankind they are the regressive element that's been holding back and destroying our civilization.

They nourish other-dimensional entities that feed on misery, pain, and chaos.

Republicans are their minions, and hope to share in these entities' power, or be spared the pain.


But The Beast never shares; The Beast never spares.


NBachers claimed this as his writing, IIRC. And I think he was really onto something there. JMHO.





sheshe2

(87,272 posts)
30. From the light into the darkest night...
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 11:20 PM
Oct 2013


No, the beast will never share or spare. They are hopeless and will descend to the depths of hell.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
37. I'll let you know when I find them.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 08:25 AM
Oct 2013

Meanwhile, watch out for rosebushes growing out your butt. And don't get stuck inside any eggshells....

sheshe2

(87,272 posts)
25. O.M.G.!
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 11:06 PM
Oct 2013

Thom Hartmann nailed the GOP in 2:08 minutes! They went from a party of upright stars to a party that descended into hell. Their stars are inverted now.

Damn that was a great analysis by Hartmann.

Excellent find freshwest!

sheshe2

(87,272 posts)
22. A great and powerful man,
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 10:52 PM
Oct 2013

that is misunderstood and completely underestimated by the right.

They are going to lose time and time again to him, fresh~

Isoldeblue

(1,135 posts)
24. They hate him because Obama's
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 10:59 PM
Oct 2013

life and family makes so many on the right, look so damned bad. They are all so nasty, with all their dirty, little secrets but unable to get a whiff of dirt on Obama or Michelle, causes huge resentment.

That's so typical of how small, rotten people handle someone like our POTUS.........

It may have just started out that a black democrat won the WH, that they wanted to ruin. But between winning twice, then add how stellar he and his family are, just sent the narrow little minds into a frenzy of hate.

ffr

(23,116 posts)
27. Did Bush II add $10.6T to Total Public Debt?
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 11:10 PM
Oct 2013
...Let’s briefly go back to the beginning of Bill Clinton’s era 1993 - 2001. In 1993 Clinton signed into law, with the help of Al Gore’s senate tie breaking vote, The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993, a.k.a. The Deficit Reduction Act of 1993. This is no small achievement: every Republican in Congress voted against this bill. Sound familiar? It, together with a progressive tax structure resulted in what we all can freely look up as historical annual budget surpluses at the end of the last millennium....

Obama inherits
January 20, 2009 10,626,877,048,913.08 8th

It appears quite normal to see that debt is increasing. Clinton saw an increase of $1.6T. Bush II saw an increase of $4.9T. Bad huh! Unfortunately, that's the picture we're told, but it's missing one key element that will inflame that last number. This is the part of the analysis that’s always left out. CBO baseline budget and economic outlook (pg 17) forecast from 07/01/2000 estimated a budget surplus (2001 - 2010) of $5.7T, in 01/31/2001 was revised out to 2011 to be $5.6T* and on 12/28/2000 Clinton announced that Total Public Debt could be paid off by end of the decade...assuming tax policy and economic conditions remained unchanged and positive. <wiki: Change in debt position since 2001> 2012 DU thread


You got that right sheshe2! Rethugs are always against America and do nothing but inflict pain and suffering. For their troubles, they raid the U.S. Treasury, gerrymander their districts, line their pockets, lie, cheat and steal their way to the top, America be damned!

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
31. I wish it were just that simple.
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 11:25 PM
Oct 2013

But it is not...the racist tea party is just a tool.
The movers and shakers don't give a shit who is president, what they care about is money and power, and getting policies that they want.
If you remember they did the same to Clinton...spent millions on investigating him in Whitewater until they caught him in a lie about sex...then they had him and he had to give them what they wanted...NAFTA for one...But he was white, and they could not use the racist against him like they are doing now.

It is a game of control, and they don't care who is in office as long as they can control him...and all of this is about control.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
35. Well I would like to believe that.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 12:08 AM
Oct 2013

But money is power, and they have lots of it.
And I am sure they have a plan, and that plan will work whether the GOP is in trouble or not.
If you got a billion to spend you can get anything you want...like someone said, you can hire half the people to kill the other half if you got that much money.
And this will continue until we free our government from the influence of big money.

JHB

(37,410 posts)
33. Yes, but it's more than that, and if you forget it you'll just set up another one
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 11:45 PM
Oct 2013

The Movement Conservatives -- the hard-core people like Ed Meese, Roger Ailes, Grover Norquist, Newt Gingrich, Hindenburg, etc. -- have had a long-term strategy to de-legitimize Democrats as a governing party. You can see it in action every time FOX puts a "D" in front of the name of a Republican caught in a scandal, in the scaremongering about "ACORN voter fraud", and in the relentless attack-mode they shifted to against two sitting Democratic presidents.

A lot of people in Washington and other political circles managed to convince themselves that all the attacks on Bill Clinton were actually about Bill Clinton and his foibles, and not bullshit sprayed about just to associate him with a foul odor. Nope, they wrote it all off as "Bill Clinton was a polarizing figure" and weren't ready for it when the same bullshit started up again, this time with racism and xenophobia on top.

Yes, it's about Obama, but even more it is about what Obama and all Democrats represent in their hallucinating heads.

ffr

(23,116 posts)
34. Watching the tail end of TRMS 2008 video leaves me with a pit in my stomach
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 12:01 AM
Oct 2013

I worried about the RR campaign's chances that they might be able to pull it off despite our best efforts. We saw their GOTV people out doing the same neighborhoods we were doing. And the RR campaign, the polls, the talking heads, all showed a close race.

They didn't win, of course and our hard GOTV volunteer work paid off. But before the results of state elections rolled in, there was a pit. What if?

Reflection. It makes me even more thankful that Barack Obama is America's president, our president today.

polynomial

(750 posts)
36. Thom Hartmann GOP needs exorcisim
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 12:11 AM
Oct 2013

It’s a thought that lingers with me plenty of times. Especially the GOP Bush era, it’s not just the dark side of secrecy and war profiteering there is a feeling to a relation an inured condition to that mind of white Aryan exploitation abuse or divine recklessness. Many of us know and realize that divine transition of black to white the mystery of dark and light revealed through a natural mathematical logic or reasoning, the calculus of life.

The GOP grand dragon with a deep dark middle earth mentality in similar respects to J.R. Tolkens middle earth, those draconian beings lusting for war the Sith GOP with staff in hand continually ponding the floor to jack shift our young population into cultural war zombies dedicated and proselytize into political metal awards cannoned that perpetuates grief under the system of national security political capital.

The Bush economy of secret national security political capital endorsed by the American Imams of the Supreme Court not only needs exorcism it is separation of the corporate and state similarly along lines with the separation of church and state of the first amendment. All this secret money by corporate tyrannies needs to be amended. Then and only then the terrorist corporate war zombies will disappear.

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