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Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 01:21 PM Oct 2013

For the BOG--Pres. Obama sucks? Really?

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So I was reading a Media Matters article, and I saw a couple of commenters who were displeased with the President thus far. The first person commented:

"I'm perfectly willing to concede to President Obama is a man of great intelligence, but he is also a great source of my apparent cynicism.

The 2008 Obama was the man. I loved that guy, and at that time, I wasn't even old enough to legally vote. Something changed once he was sworn in. The NSA program is illegal. The drone strike program is inhumane. President Obama is by own definition a moderate republican were it not for the fact that the Republican Party is a group of fringe lunatics.
The ACA is a compromise in and of itself. Earlier this year, Obama gave the Republicans Social Security cuts when they weren't even asking for it. I have no doubt in my mind that one of President Obama's main goals is to 'de-weaponize' the debt ceiling, a laudable goal to be certain. But I worry about what comes afterwords.

So, yes. I always maintain a bit of cynicism. Especially when our 'progressives' aren't progressive in any sense of the word. And that is my diatribe for tonight."

Another commenter responded, saying:
"You need not wait for an answer to how I feel about Obama.
Just like every other president before him, he sucks."

This was my response to comment #1:
"Actually, the NSA program is legal:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9241267/Controls_keep_NSA_spy_programs_legal_director_tells_Black_Hat_audience?source=rss_keyword_edpicks&google_editors_picks=true
With concerns to the drone strikes, that method is by no means perfect, but there are at least less of our troops being wounded, and the country is still being kept safe. Other countries use drone strikes, as well.

As far as SS goes, it has been well over 4 years, and Obama still has not made any cuts to it. If he were that eager to make cuts, he would've had plenty of willing Republicans to assist him. All he did was show to everyone how unreasonable and extreme the Republicans have been. He has been the adult in the room and willing to work together with Congress in order to get things done, but they have not been cooperative at all."

And here is my response to the 2nd comment:
"I don't think Obama is perfect, but I would have to take issue with that. It is tough for ANY president to get much accomplished when they have a Congress that is 100% committed to opposing him or her at all costs, no matter how ideologically pure the President may be. At one point, he even proposed a Jobs Bill, yet that was blocked by Congress. Considering all that he has accomplished like lowering the deficit and unemployment, drawing down both wars, extending tax cuts for working class and poor Americans, bringing the country a step closer towards single-payer, signing the Lily Ledbetter act, and being the 1st president to endorse gay marriage, I would argue that he has done a pretty good job thus far."

Anyway, thanks in advance for reading this, and feel free to share your thoughts on my responses. I think I might get thumbed down a bit for those comments, though, since some of the regulars on that site are in fact pretty cynical about President Obama.

Here is the link, BTW, in case if anyone wants to check the article out:
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/10/10/ben-carson-uses-his-first-official-fox-appearan/196383

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For the BOG--Pres. Obama sucks? Really? (Original Post) Jamaal510 Oct 2013 OP
Jamaal, please allow me to head off some of those bitter cynics at the pass. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #1
May I second this opinion? AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #2
Thx Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #3

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
1. Jamaal, please allow me to head off some of those bitter cynics at the pass.
Thu Oct 10, 2013, 02:22 PM
Oct 2013

Kudos to you for a fine OP. Sad, but at some point we just have to turn a deaf ear to people who've proved they're going to find fault no matter who does what. If President Obama happened to be seen walking on water, they'd cry, "See! He can't swim! Must not be worthy..."

I say a pox on all their houses. Of course President Obama is not perfect, doesn't claim to be, any more than every other human being. But the matter of glass houses comes to mind....

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