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Jonathan Bernstein: Hey Reporters! Do Health Insurance Boycott Organizers Carry Insurance Themselves?Do Health Insurance Boycott Organizers Carry InsuranceBy Jonathan Bernstein, Published: August 2 at 4:56 pmE-mail the writer
conservative activists are organizing boycotts of health insurance within the exchanges. Weve had great reporting by Sarah Kliff, and today by Christopher Flavelle, who interviewed Twila Brase, an Obamacare boycott organizer with something called the Citizens Council for Health Freedom. What I really want to know, however, neither Flavelle nor Kliff asked: Are the people organizing these boycotts going without health insurance? Are they going without their own ACA-regulated, government-subsidized health insurance?
Flavelle gets Brase to talk about what a supposedly bad idea health insurance is for her target group. It really doesnt seem far-fetched to ask whether she subjects herself to the horrors of insurance. Of course, if she does, and if employees of FreedomWorks and the other Obamacare boycott organizers also use health insurance themselves, then we might begin to suspect that this is just a fundraising scam by political activists who are willing to raise money off of their irresponsible rhetoric and are actually willing to destroy young conservatives lives by encouraging them to make stupid financial choices for the cause.
Flavelle gets Brase to talk about what a supposedly bad idea health insurance is for her target group. It really doesnt seem far-fetched to ask whether she subjects herself to the horrors of insurance. Of course, if she does, and if employees of FreedomWorks and the other Obamacare boycott organizers also use health insurance themselves, then we might begin to suspect that this is just a fundraising scam by political activists who are willing to raise money off of their irresponsible rhetoric and are actually willing to destroy young conservatives lives by encouraging them to make stupid financial choices for the cause.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2013/08/02/hey-reporters-do-health-insurance-boycott-organizers-carry-insurance-themselves/
The Big Lie Goes After Obamacare
By Christopher Flavelle Aug 2, 2013 12:35 PM ET
Opponents of Obamacare are trying to persuade people who are eligible for subsidized health insurance not to sign up. Let's consider what makes that campaign so offensive.
The logic, explains Twila Brase, president of the Citizens' Council for Health Freedom, goes like this: Obamacare depends on state insurance exchanges to expand health coverage, and those exchanges in turn depend on a sufficient number of young and healthy people to buy coverage. So groups such as hers are telling people not to buy coverage on the exchanges, in an effort to bring the whole law tumbling down.
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Having dismissed the entire concept of insurance, Brase then tried a different argument: Thanks to the law's guarantee that nobody can be denied coverage, anyone who gets sick can simply sign up for insurance. But it isn't that simple. While you can't be denied coverage because you're sick, you still need to buy that coverage during the annual open enrollment period, as with employer-sponsored insurance. That ends March 31, 2014.
The logic, explains Twila Brase, president of the Citizens' Council for Health Freedom, goes like this: Obamacare depends on state insurance exchanges to expand health coverage, and those exchanges in turn depend on a sufficient number of young and healthy people to buy coverage. So groups such as hers are telling people not to buy coverage on the exchanges, in an effort to bring the whole law tumbling down.
snip
Having dismissed the entire concept of insurance, Brase then tried a different argument: Thanks to the law's guarantee that nobody can be denied coverage, anyone who gets sick can simply sign up for insurance. But it isn't that simple. While you can't be denied coverage because you're sick, you still need to buy that coverage during the annual open enrollment period, as with employer-sponsored insurance. That ends March 31, 2014.
What's changing
The Affordable Care Act is a set of health insurance reforms that started in 2010 and will continue to roll out in 2014 and beyond.
2014 is an important year. The Health Insurance Marketplace will offer a new way for people without insurance to get coverage and to find out if they can get lower costs for private insurance. They can also find out if they qualify for Medicaid or the Childrens Health Insurance Program (CHIP).
Also starting in 2014, people who do not have health coverage may have to pay a fee.
These pages lay out the important changes in the law from 2010 through 2015.
https://www.healthcare.gov/timeline-of-the-health-care-law/#part=1
So Brase's advice that people who can't afford insurance outside the exchanges simply go without makes perfect sense -- but only if you're rich, you never get sick, or you only get sick during open enrollment. And how about access to preventive care to keep you from getting sick in the first place, you ask? Well, if you're worried about that, you'd better reconsider your commitment to freedom, my friend.
This campaign would be amusing, if it didn't stand a significant chance of actually persuading people to sacrifice their own health and finances for somebody else's political cause. An April poll found that 42 percent of Americans didn't know that Obamacare was still law, and even doctors don't understand how the exchanges will work. Those seeking to mislead Americans about what Obamacare means for them are looking at a promising landscape.
This campaign would be amusing, if it didn't stand a significant chance of actually persuading people to sacrifice their own health and finances for somebody else's political cause. An April poll found that 42 percent of Americans didn't know that Obamacare was still law, and even doctors don't understand how the exchanges will work. Those seeking to mislead Americans about what Obamacare means for them are looking at a promising landscape.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-02/the-big-lie-goes-after-obamacare.html
More at the links above, a lot more.
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Do Health Insurance Boycott Organizers Carry Insurance Themselves? (Original Post)
sheshe2
Aug 2013
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giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)1. Why won't these ppl
just stop with this nonsense? They are such a despicable bunch. Another key question to ask them would be how many of their kids are still being carried on their insurance now that the age has been extended to 26?
sheshe2
(87,495 posts)2. That is another key question, thanks giftedgirl.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)3. No problem.
Anything to help point out the hypocrisy...
Cha
(305,415 posts)4. Mahalo, she.. important information..
to let people know what the deadenders are up to.
So glad CVS and people who are well known are getting the facts out on Obamacare to counteract the gopropaganda!
sheshe2
(87,495 posts)5. You are correct, Cha.
The word is getting out.
Guess what, The Repukes are scared spitless!