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sheshe2

(87,494 posts)
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 08:59 PM Jul 2013

How Obama’s Trayvon Martin remarks fit into fabric of presidential history

Opinion
by Professor Blair L.M. Kelley | July 23, 2013 at 8:50 AM



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Most American presidents have not welcomed the opportunity to discuss race. After all, talking about it unearths the history of American slavery, Jim Crow segregation, and the history of racial inequality.

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The original conversation on race

Although President Bill Clinton is famously tagged with starting the idea of a “national conversation on race,” in his 1997 commencement address at the University of California-San Diego, American presidents have long had to address the issue. From Thomas Jefferson’s Notes on the State of Virginia on forward, the question of race has been at the heart of how Americans might reconcile American democracy with systematic racial inequality. And for much of our history, their ideas have come well short of freedom and equity.

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The civil rights era leadership of the Executive Branch

Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower was president when Brown v. Board of Education was decided in 1954, and when Emmett Till’s killers were freed after a quick show trial in Mississippi in 1955. Eisenhower seemed to try his best not to take a stand on the movement, and even refused the answer the telegram sent by Mamie Till, mother of the slain teenager, “pleading that [he] personally see that justice is meted out… in the beastly lynching of [her] son.”

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JFK paves the way

The groundbreaking and turbulent events of 1963, particularly the young activists of Birmingham, Alabama who faced down the fire hoses and police dog attacks ordered by Birmingham’s Commissioner of Public Safety “Bull” Connor, finally pushed Kennedy to speak out. In his speech 50 years ago last month, Kennedy argued that civil rights should be thought of as part of the broader American struggle for freedom. Reminding Americans that while our armed forces were not “whites only” institutions, Kennedy insisted “it ought to be possible… for every American to enjoy the privileges of being American without regard to his race or his color.”

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Few in today’s political climate felt like it was a good time for President Obama to talk about race following the not guilty verdict in the trial of George Zimmerman. But the protests and profound disappointment in the wake of the verdict has created a national divide he clearly felt compelled to address.


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http://thegrio.com/2013/07/23/obamas-trayvon-remarks-fit-into-fabric-of-presidential-history/


Thomas Jefferson and Slavery

Thomas Jefferson was a consistent opponent of slavery his whole life. Calling it a “moral depravity” and a “hideous blot,” he believed that slavery presented the greatest threat to the survival of the new American nation. Jefferson also thought that slavery was contrary to the laws of nature, which decreed that everyone had a right to personal liberty. These views were radical in a world where unfree labor was the norm.

At the time of the American Revolution, Jefferson was actively involved in legislation that he hoped would result in slavery’s abolition. In 1778, he drafted a Virginia law that prohibited the importation of enslaved Africans. In 1784, he proposed an ordinance that would ban slavery in the Northwest territories. But Jefferson always maintained that the decision to emancipate slaves would have to be part of a democratic process; abolition would be stymied until slaveowners consented to free their human property together in a large-scale act of emancipation. To Jefferson, it was anti-democratic and contrary to the principles of the American Revolution for the federal government to enact abolition or for only a few planters to free their slaves.

Although Jefferson continued to advocate for abolition, the reality was that slavery was only becoming more entrenched. The slave population in Virginia skyrocketed from 292,627 in 1790 to 469,757 in 1830. Jefferson had assumed that the abolition of the slave trade would weaken slavery and hasten its end. Instead, slavery only became more widespread and profitable. To try to erode Virginians’ support for slavery, he discouraged the cultivation of crops heavily dependent on slave labor—tobacco—and encouraged the introduction of crops that needed little or no slave labor—wheat, sugar maples, short-grained rice, olive trees, and wine grapes. But by the 1800s, Virginia’s most valuable commodity and export was neither crops nor land, but slaves.

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http://www.monticello.org/site/plantation-and-slavery/thomas-jefferson-and-slavery

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How Obama’s Trayvon Martin remarks fit into fabric of presidential history (Original Post) sheshe2 Jul 2013 OP
Good lord, does that Monticello group actually think anyone buys that crap. Hoyt Jul 2013 #1
Yes Hoyt, he was a slave owner sheshe2 Jul 2013 #2
Sorry, he was not an opponent of slavery despite his talk of "liberty" and all. Hoyt Jul 2013 #3
Name them. freshwest Jul 2013 #4
We've come a long way since the days of Jefferson.. who obviously Cha Jul 2013 #5
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. Good lord, does that Monticello group actually think anyone buys that crap.
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 09:26 PM
Jul 2013

Jefferson was a big slave owner, and was not particularly kind to them.

Enjoyed rest of article, but it's hard to know the truth even with modern Presidents.

sheshe2

(87,494 posts)
2. Yes Hoyt, he was a slave owner
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 09:52 PM
Jul 2013

and the year was also 1778. That was 235 years ago.

He also believed

Thomas Jefferson was a consistent opponent of slavery his whole life. Calling it a “moral depravity” and a “hideous blot,” he believed that slavery presented the greatest threat to the survival of the new American nation.


His thinking on the subject was far more advanced than many in this generation. He was unfortunately a flawed man. I posted his story as part of the first one to show a broader view on the subject. What went on through history to bring us where we are today.

Our President stands strong for the rights and freedoms of the Black Suppression that is trying to rear its ugly head again. He believes in it because it is part of his history, don't doubt his sincerity.

Please remember too that this is a BOG post.

Thanks Hoyt. I am glad you enjoyed the rest of the article.
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. Sorry, he was not an opponent of slavery despite his talk of "liberty" and all.
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 10:07 PM
Jul 2013

Apologizing for him is like saying bush really tried to bomb Iraq into democracy.

If he wanted to end slavery, what better way to set an example than to free and not beat/rape them.

I really believe this country would be better off if they had taught the truth in schools - rather than the sanitzed myth - of the founding fathers who also treated women and Native Americans with little respect.

Time for some new heroes.

Cha

(305,415 posts)
5. We've come a long way since the days of Jefferson.. who obviously
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 05:22 PM
Jul 2013

had the foresight to see how depraved slavery was for people.

There may even be a further political cost to be paid in today’s very divided political world. But as the first African-American president, Obama was able to speak to the experiences of black Americans in a way no other president in our history could. But he is also part of an important tradition of presidents speaking about what’s the best way to create a more safe, just, and moral world, enabling us all to explore the ways that our promise has yet to be fulfilled.


Thank you to JFK for paving the way.

Mahalo for this article, she..

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