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sheshe2

(87,272 posts)
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 11:48 AM Jul 2013

Unprecedented



So, for all the conservatives who have been desperately straining for years to scare me out of this, and to the Republicans in the House who have voted 37 times to repeal the ACA……kiss my country ass. You’re a bunch of lying, fear mongering and ignorant demagogues, and you should be ashamed of yourselves.


http://www.patheos.com/blogs/wwjtd/2013/07/obamacare-confession/

Found at The Obama Diary
http://theobamadiary.com/

The Unprecedented, Contemptible GOP Quest to Sabotage Obamacare

What the Republicans are doing now goes beyond mere hardball politics -- and could hurt millions of Americans affected by health-care reform.

When Mike Lee pledges to try to shut down the government unless President Obama knuckles under and defunds Obamacare entirely, it is not news -- it is par for the course for the take-no-prisoners extremist senator from Utah. When the Senate Republicans' No. 2 and No. 3 leaders, John Cornyn and John Thune, sign on to the blackmail plan, it is news -- of the most depressing variety.


It occurred to me others might be wondering the same thing. While Greg Sargent and I talk about "sabotage governing" quite a bit, it's easy to lose sight sometimes of just how sweeping the GOP efforts to impair the federal health care law really are. We've never seen anything like this -- it is literally without precedent -- and for millions of Americans, very little matters more.

So let's get specific. When we talk about efforts to "sabotage" Obamacare, what are we referring to? Several -- by my count, seven -- specific efforts.

First, congressional Republicans are actively trying to undermine the federal health care system by refusing to help their own constituents navigate the system.

People regularly call their representatives for help with Medicare, Social Security and other government programs. Yet, Republicans believe healthcare reform spells doom for the federal budget, private businesses and the U.S. healthcare system. They're also enormously frustrated that the law has persevered through two elections and a Supreme Court challenge and believe a botched implementation could help build momentum for the repeal movement.

Some Republicans indicated to The Hill they will not assist constituents in navigating the law and obtaining benefits. Others said they would tell people to call the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/07/22/19617125-what-sabotage-governing-looks-like

It is important to emphasize that this set of moves is simply unprecedented. The clear comparison is the Medicare prescription-drug plan. When it passed Congress in 2003, Democrats had many reasons to be furious. The initial partnership between President Bush and Senator Edward Kennedy had resulted in an admirably bipartisan bill -- it passed the Senate with 74 votes. Republicans then pulled a bait and switch, taking out all of the provisions that Kennedy had put in to bring along Senate Democrats, jamming the resulting bill through the House in a three-hour late-night vote marathon that blatantly violated House rules and included something close to outright bribery on the House floor, and then passing the bill through the Senate with just 54 votes -- while along the way excluding the duly elected conferees, Tom Daschle (the Democratic leader!) and Jay Rockefeller, from the conference-committee deliberations.

The implementation of that bill was a huge challenge, and had many rocky moments. It required educating millions of seniors, most not computer-literate, about the often complicated choices they had to create or change their prescription coverage. Imagine if Democrats had gone all out to block or disrupt the implementation -- using filibusters to deny funding, sending threatening letters to companies or outside interests who mobilized to educate Medicare recipients, putting on major campaigns to convince seniors that this was a plot to deny them Medicare, comparing it to the ill-fated Medicare reform plan that passed in 1989 and, after a revolt by seniors, was repealed the next year.


http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/07/the-unprecedented-contemptible-gop-quest-to-sabotage-obamacare/278098/

The GOP lies, threatens to shut down the government, uses the old bait and switch to shut down Obamacare. They don't give a rats ass about this country or it's people.

They are angry soulless old men that only know of one tune to dance to. That is the one that their corporate masters play while pulling their strings.

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Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
1. and the RW eslcalting attacks without substance now makes sense.
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 01:00 PM
Jul 2013

If the word gets out to the public, before they are able to shut that whole thing down, they will be known as the liars, and for wanting to damage rather than build.

Cha

(305,137 posts)
2. Yep, Obamacare went straight through the goPropaganda
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 04:10 PM
Jul 2013

machine to Victory and broke the damn thing. That also goes for the profiteering left poopaganda whining machine.

Thanks for posting FACTS in the BOG, she!

sheshe2

(87,272 posts)
3. That's perfect Cha.
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 04:32 PM
Jul 2013
Yep, Obamacare went straight through the goPropaganda
machine to Victory and broke the damn thing.


As Mark Twain said~
“A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.”

Well the GOP's lies flew alright, however they crashed and burned when they landed.



Cha

(305,137 posts)
4. That's what the gops keeping counting on, she.. good ol Mark Twain's
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 04:59 PM
Jul 2013

astute observation. But, then Along Came Obama with his trusty men and women who believe in getting the good news out..

They're everywhere.. to spread the wealth..

"President Barack Obama on Monday dropped by a star-studded meeting at the White House that brought celebrities such as actress Amy Poehler, singer Jennifer Hudson and "Funny or Die’s" Mike Farah together to talk about how to promote Obamacare to young people.

Actor (and former White House official) Kal Penn, “Royal Pains” creator Andrew Lenchewski, YouTube Comedy’s Daniel Kellison, as well as representatives for Oprah Winfrey, Alicia Keys, Bon Jovi, the Grammys and Latin Grammys also attended, according to a White House official."

More..
http://news.yahoo.com/-obama-holds-obamacare-sales-meeting-with-celebrities-213011602.html

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
5. I expect the lieing asshole RW to do this.
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 09:54 PM
Jul 2013

What I'm still not getting is 'progressives' being as ignorant as the RW about Obamacare.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
9. True progressives are not ignorant
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 03:14 PM
Aug 2013

But wolves in sheep's clothing like to pose as progressives, that's all. I don't believe for one second that a real progressive of any depth would behave as the posers do. And we all know that some of the false claimants are outright plants.

Cha

(305,137 posts)
7. More good news about spreading the good news about Obamacare, she~
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 11:23 PM
Jul 2013

Nerdy Wonka @NerdyWonka

CVS will use its 7,400 North American stores and 375 healthcare fairs to help people sign up for #ObamaCare. http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/cvs-caremark-will-help-promote-obamacare-94771.html …11:09 AM - 26 Jul 2013

CVS Caremark will help promote Obamacare - Kyle Cheney
By Kyle Cheney @kyledcheney

CVS Caremark is joining the effort to encourage Americans to sign up for Obamacare insurance programs, company executives announced Thursday. CVS officials told POLITICO that they’re planning to use...

POLITICO @politico
171 Retweets 47 favorites Reply

http://theobamadiary.com/2013/07/26/no-fear-of-a-black-planet/#comments



Gotta love that CVS.. I buy bandaids and things like that at Longs Drugs here on Kaua'i. It's now a part of CVS.

sheshe2

(87,272 posts)
8. Go CVS!
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 11:46 PM
Jul 2013

CVS Caremark is part of my insurance plan. I get my mail order scripts from them.

A 90 day supply saves you a lot of money. It's easy and very convenient.

To CVS in helping Americans get the Information they need for affordable health care.

Thanks for the great addition to this thread Cha!

BOG For getting this information front and forward~ BOG

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
10. Thanks for the (happily usual) great OP
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 03:29 PM
Aug 2013

There's a generally nice and fairly smart recent retiree where I live who once wrote her first letter to the editor of our local weekly (from what I've seen), and she told about how her insurance company had claimed her Medicare supplement policy would skyrocket out of her reach under Obamacare. I almost felt sorry for her, the terror was so palpable. I hope by now she knows better. I thought about calling her but decided not to, because people in that state of near-hysteria don't listen to anything new to them. It's like horses rescued from a burning barn charging back in - THEY WILL! - because that's the only safe place they know.

But I do hope that by now she's found out better for herself, unless she was too traumatized to look outside the corral her owners had penned her into. I do know that if I ever see her again, I'll try to take her aside and ask what she thinks of Obamacare now. But even if she admits it saved her bacon, she'll still complain that it's going to wreck the country. If she ever realizes that it represents a high degree of financial salvation instead, she'll complain that it murders the innocent unborn; if she ever finds out that's not true, there'll always be something else until that wonderful man she's been taught to fear and hate is out of office.

And just think about it - she's one of the nicest and smartest people I know around here.

You know what I think the majority of what's left of the GOP will do when they finally throw in the towel? They're going to claim Obamacare is a misnomer, that they forced it through Congress over the fierce objections of that black foreign-born Commie Muslim.

Worse yet, half their sheeple will swallow that Big Lie whole.

sheshe2

(87,272 posts)
11. You are right IrishAyes,
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 04:30 PM
Aug 2013
if she ever finds out that's not true, there'll always be something else until that wonderful man she's been taught to fear and hate is out of office.


There will always be something else, it's just never good enough. Sad, isn't it.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
12. Thank you for posting the facts, she!
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 10:24 PM
Aug 2013

A very politically astute friend of mine, a widow with an autistic child, is a HUGE supporter of Obamacare and is spreading the word, bless her heart. She knows the benefit for her and thousands in her situation. Damn the GOP for their disregard for people.

sheshe2

(87,272 posts)
13. Oh Kath, thank you.
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 10:39 PM
Aug 2013

I am glad that your friend is finding much needed help with Obamacare!

It is so important that we all spread the word.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
14. Yes, it is.
Sat Aug 3, 2013, 10:52 PM
Aug 2013

I occasionally tune in to the local RW talk radio station, which is basically bash Obama 24/7, just to see what they are up to. Their absolutely incredible and ridiculous lies about Obamacare are sickening (no pun intended)! It just pisses me off and makes me more motivated to educate people with the facts.

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