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Cover of Germany's Der Spiegel June issue, titled "Fire Devil: A President Burns Down His Country (Original Post) NoRWNJ Jul 2020 OP
Der Spiegel gristy Jul 2020 #1
A Der Spiegel cover from way back in 2017 gristy Jul 2020 #3
Yep.. they know. They had a cover in jan 2016 that Cha Jul 2020 #35
I never thought of Der Spiegel as "far left" thucythucy Jul 2020 #5
What's "far left" these days is just good reporting.. ananda Jul 2020 #8
Absolutely. thucythucy Jul 2020 #11
I think you mean "insightful" wnylib Jul 2020 #24
Oops. My bad! thucythucy Jul 2020 #29
Wikipedia Roy Rolling Jul 2020 #36
+1000 hopeforchange2008 Jul 2020 #13
What is considered in the United States to be "far left" soldierant Jul 2020 #21
This ... or "center" BlueMTexpat Jul 2020 #22
I have never heard it called far left. Mickju Jul 2020 #23
Hardly "far-left" think4yourself Jul 2020 #10
Ich denke von der recht. wnylib Jul 2020 #25
Interesting, when I clicked on the link cannabis_flower Jul 2020 #18
It doesn't say "far left". Did you add that? scipan Jul 2020 #19
Interesting! No I did not. gristy Jul 2020 #20
He'll probably commission a painting soothsayer Jul 2020 #2
He doesn't look that good. More jowly. Pretty good painting though. Evolve Dammit Jul 2020 #4
Hardly a far left magazine. Captain Zero Jul 2020 #6
I do love the way the artist subtly made his hands small. WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2020 #7
Link to Spiegel Images Scalded Nun Jul 2020 #9
K&R 2naSalit Jul 2020 #12
Nero fiddled, Donnie tweets and golfs. patphil Jul 2020 #14
Can You Imagine.... McKim Jul 2020 #15
ENTIRELY too passive. Almost depressed. The depressed sleep a lot. ancianita Jul 2020 #17
The American people have been trained like Pavlov's dog....... jaxexpat Jul 2020 #38
You're right. That should be reflected in new laws that enforce enfranchisement and ancianita Jul 2020 #41
A perfect Presidential Portrait sumus Jul 2020 #16
What the world is thinking left-of-center2012 Jul 2020 #26
Europe really, REALLY zentrum Jul 2020 #27
I do too. MontanaMama Jul 2020 #37
CORRECT Skittles Jul 2020 #28
Notice the bare, empty desktop. NBachers Jul 2020 #30
They forgot the black moustache /nt bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #31
I hope the next cover has him playing his fiddle like Nero. BigmanPigman Jul 2020 #32
I hope everyone here understands that warmfeet Jul 2020 #33
Not far left. Archetypist Jul 2020 #34
When did telling the truth become a far left attribute? It appears their propaganda is working. olegramps Jul 2020 #39
Can someone Photoshop some horns on his head? Quemado Jul 2020 #40

gristy

(10,719 posts)
1. Der Spiegel
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 09:19 AM
Jul 2020
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Spiegel

Der Spiegel (German pronunciation: [deːɐ̯ ˈʃpiːɡl̩], lit. "The Mirror" ) is a far-left German weekly news magazine published in Hamburg.[1] With a weekly circulation of 840,000 copies, it is the largest such publication in Europe.[2][3][4]

It was founded in 1947[5] by John Seymour Chaloner, a British army officer, and Rudolf Augstein, a former Wehrmacht radio operator who was recognised in 2000 by the International Press Institute as one of the fifty World Press Freedom Heroes.[6] Typically, the magazine has a content to advertising ratio of 2:1.

Der Spiegel is known in German-speaking countries mostly for its investigative journalism. It has played a key role in uncovering many political scandals such as the Spiegel scandal in 1962 and the Flick affair in the 1980s. According to The Economist, Der Spiegel is one of continental Europe's most influential magazines.[7]

Cha

(305,397 posts)
35. Yep.. they know. They had a cover in jan 2016 that
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 12:02 AM
Jul 2020

I posted that warned us about trump but they didn't listern

thucythucy

(8,742 posts)
5. I never thought of Der Spiegel as "far left"
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 09:43 AM
Jul 2020

though perhaps in America it would be considered so.

I always thought it mainstream leaning left, or maybe left, but "far-left?"

It's not like it's something from the Sparacist League or the SWP.

thucythucy

(8,742 posts)
11. Absolutely.
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 09:58 AM
Jul 2020

And by labeling it "far left" it loses credibility in the eyes of many Americans.

I find German reporting on American politics by and large to be far more inciteful (and fact based) than most American reporting.

One side effect of the Trump plague: for the time being at least i will be unable to visit my German family (and they certainly don't want to come here).

Best wishes.

wnylib

(24,376 posts)
24. I think you mean "insightful"
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 05:04 PM
Jul 2020

as in giving insight or greater understanding to something.

"Incite" is arousing people to action, as in inciting a riot.

A way to remember the spelling difference is by associating the "sight" in insight with "seeing" into something to understand it.

soldierant

(7,892 posts)
21. What is considered in the United States to be "far left"
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 04:28 PM
Jul 2020

would e considered "center-right" in most of the world.

cannabis_flower

(3,845 posts)
18. Interesting, when I clicked on the link
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 11:42 AM
Jul 2020

It didn't say it was far-left. Maybe someone changed it and they changed it back. Or did you add that?

gristy

(10,719 posts)
20. Interesting! No I did not.
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 01:26 PM
Jul 2020

It said "far-left" when I posted. Someone made an edit. My guess the 2nd edit in the list below

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Der_Spiegel&action=history

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Captain Zero

(7,505 posts)
6. Hardly a far left magazine.
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 09:46 AM
Jul 2020

Maybe here where everything has skewed to the far right, but Spiegel is owned and operated by Gruner and Jahr, And Bertelsmann AG. They are not leftist corporations, probably just cognizant of their role in the press to root out out corruption and perfidy.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,157 posts)
7. I do love the way the artist subtly made his hands small.
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 09:49 AM
Jul 2020

Maybe I'm seeing what I want to, but I can never remember seeing any man's cuffs lift that far off his wrist.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
15. Can You Imagine....
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 10:37 AM
Jul 2020

Can you imagine the French tolerating this? This country is so passive!!!!! This is frustrating.

ancianita

(38,516 posts)
17. ENTIRELY too passive. Almost depressed. The depressed sleep a lot.
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 11:37 AM
Jul 2020

But then, our legal structures have tried everything.

So that legal structure will have to be change with new laws passed by a new Congress, signed by a new president.

jaxexpat

(7,785 posts)
38. The American people have been trained like Pavlov's dog.......
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 08:20 AM
Jul 2020

to see themselves reflected by their bank account. If it's okay, then all is well. If it's not, then we must blame ourselves. And that people without bank accounts have simply chosen not exist at all. They're invisible. Nothing can be done with them that wouldn't threaten our bank accounts. We're powerless, we could go bankrupt or be reduced to homelessness if we allow ourselves to express or even HAVE considerations outside the lines of personal accounting.
If we had a more comprehensive social support network, like any part of Europe does, for instance, then maybe more would allow themselves the bother of actually giving a damn enough to speak up.

ancianita

(38,516 posts)
41. You're right. That should be reflected in new laws that enforce enfranchisement and
Wed Jul 15, 2020, 09:32 AM
Jul 2020

the de-commodifying of human bodies. No one is qualified to put a price on human bodies. No human is to be valued by currency or commodification systems. We should support Black Lives Matter as the catalyst for speaking up, along with those who are doing that by protesting with them.

Look for the vanguards and make everyone pay attention to them enough to shift directions under law.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
33. I hope everyone here understands that
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 07:49 PM
Jul 2020

this is how the majority of the world currently see us.

They see we are in steep decline, perhaps going over the ultimate cliff - never to recover.

We may still have a chance. That chance starts on November 3rd. It's an end, but also a new beginning.

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