I recently loaded Kubuntu 11.10 to get away from Unity on Ubuntu 11.10. KDE

[RKP5637]

is working really well in this release IMO.

[TroglodyteScholar]

1. I went the XFCE route...

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...because my hardware is kinda old. Very snappy

[RKP5637]

2. I've heard a lot of good things about XFCE. Haven't tried XFCE in awhile, but

I was going to try it too, but Kubuntu loaded well, so I stopped there for now.

[Boston_Chemist]

5. I tried XFCE,

But I couldn't get the dual monitor set up to work the way I wanted it to.

I am currently stuck in Natty, with a classic GNOME desktop.

[madokie]

3. What is the difference between ubuntu and Kubuntu

I don't like unity in any shape or form and will not install ubuntu that uses it on any other computer ever. It sucks. I'm stuck with 10.10 as I can't get AutoCad to work where with 11.04 it kinda sorta works. I'd go back to winblows if I had to because I use and need AutoCad.

I guess I could google this and find out but I'd rather read it from one of my sis's or bro's here at the DU.

[RKP5637]

4. Here's the difference ...

Kubuntu uses the KDE desktop, but the OS is still Ubuntu. KDE can be configured to look pretty much like Gnome did before Unity on Ubuntu. KDE has a lot more areas for configuration than Gnome depending how far one wants to go. I've always like KDE a lot.

Here's an interesting site with lots of information on various Linux distributions if you've not see it before. http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=kubuntu

[madokie]

6. Thank you

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I'll be downloading Kubuntu sometime today and installing it hopefully tonight.

Can I install KDE on my, oh never mind this is 10.10 and I want to upgrade to 11.10
Peace
Unity sucks warthog balls
there I said it

ETA: Kubuntu is downloaded and ready to burn
thank you

[RKP5637]

7. Just as a note, after you load Kubuntu, if you want the classic menu style, like

on the old Ubuntu Gnome, you can get it by doing the following ...

Go to the very bottom left of your desktop screen. Right click on the Icon that looks like a gear. Then left click on the line that says "classic" menu, something like that, and it will switch to what I think is a more straight forward application menu. You can toggle back and forth between the new and the classic menu style.

[madokie]

8. Thank you

I'm using Kubuntu from the cd right now and I can see I will be making the switch from ubuntu. So much to save before I do though. I'll try your suggestion as I liked the old ubuntu menu setup with a panel at the top that I changed to auto hide that had all the relevent items I need it on. removing the bottom panel and setting up so I only have one window as that is all I want or need.

Thanks for the help and if you think of anything else I might need to know to make this switch from ubuntu to Kubuntu please let me know.


I think I'm going to be liking DU3 after all.

[RKP5637]

9. I was just thinking ... Kubuntu uses Dolphin as the file manager. Dolphin has just about

infinite settings. It's pretty powerful. I think there are a few bugs in some of the settings, but I couldn't get them to replicate enough to file a bug report. Dolphin seems highly integrated into KDE.

I tried Thunbar, another file manager, as a replacement, but I would not recommend it, it was flaky to me.

I guess what I'm trying to say is stick with Dolphin as the file manager and you can probably get it how you want it. I've got my setup with Dolphin looking pretty much like I had with Gnome in Ubuntu (before Unity).

[ballreward]

10. Mint 12

I tried Mint 12 they added panels and some of their own fixes to Gnown 3 desktop making it very workable, and nice to use. Worth checking outg

[RKP5637]

11. Thanks!!! I've heard some really good things about Mint! n/t

[TroubleMan]

12. I'm still on Mint 11 and hesitant to upgrade yet.

Maybe after the holidays I'll play around with the live CD to see how I like it.

[RKP5637]

14. I've got to give Mint a try. When I was loading one of the other computers here it did

not have a DVD drive on it and it looks like the image is too large to get it onto a 700MB CD. It's no problem with the other computer here. I know what you mean about these endless distribution upgrades. I've never seen an upgrade work well for a major release, so generally I just wipe the OS and load fresh. ... but that gets to be a pain.

[Syrinx]

17. if you have a spare USB thumb drive...

Those work great for installing Linux. You may have to go into your BIOS at boot to great it work though.

[RKP5637]

18. That's a great idea! Thanks!!! n/t

[BelgianMadCow]

23. you can actually run a permanent system with persistent memory (saving settings etc) from a USB

and it actually runs smooth without using your HD at all, it's hard to believe.

I did that with Ubuntu 10.04 and Live-USB-Installer (from a windows OS).

With that USB, you can fix puter problems like you is da guru
If you like it, you then install it to HD next to Windows if you want. I've got XP, 7 and 2 Linuxes in my boot menu and I'm no guru at all.

Then encrypt your stuff with truecrypt and say eff off to all the snooping, unless they torture you.

Just find a good place for the stick, lol

[ballreward]

13. Mint 12

It looks like Mint will stay with Gnome 3 and XFCE for all of you KDE fans they are planning a KDE edition, but no Unity distro is planned ohhhh!

I am moving to Debian Mint XFCE and trying it for my main desktop I want a Rolling Release Distro, I am comfortable with Debian Testing and with a command line if needed with Debian.

On my main Computer I have my important stuff so I need it stable, and want to get away from huge distribution upgrades every year or two. I don't need to be constantly fixing it I am impressed with what mint is doing.

[Syrinx]

15. Gnome Shell Extensions

Use those to bring back a normal desktop experience. They seem to be enabled by default in Linux Mint 12 (Lisa), but you can install them for other distributions.

I don't understand Unity at all. It seems to be trying to do the same thing as the new Gnome Shell, but the Gnome Shell is much prettier. I don't understand the point of it.

But with Gnome Shell Extensions you can bring back the taskbar and other sane parts of the desktop experience.

[RKP5637]

16. Thanks!!! n/t

[41mag]

19. As a newbie

Both to DU and to Linux, I am running Ubuntu, and downloading Kubuntu as I type. I it easy to load multiple os's to try them out? I still don't know what I want, but I do know I'll never use windows again. Any recommendations as to disro's would be appreciated.

[RKP5637]

20. If you have enough disk space one could do that ... I just stick with one at a time. Ubuntu

is a predominate OS people like, and variations there of. I've not tried Mint yet, but in this thread a lot of folks have really liked Mint. The last Windows OS I bought for a principal OS was Win 95. I do use XP as a virtual system under Linux for a navigational app wherein I must have Windows.

Here's a site that lists a lot of Linux distros and info. http://distrowatch.com/

Welcome to DU!!!

[Spider Jerusalem]

24. I recommend Ubuntu as being probably the easiest for the typical user...

in part because of the availability of software and a fairly large user community should you need to get help with something. And to try out KDE the easiest way to do it is to go to a terminal and then sudo apt-get install kde-standard rather than reinstalling completely; the underlying OS is the same, you're just using a different desktop environment, window manager and application suite on top of them. You can run GTK+ programs in KDE, and KDE programs in GNOME or Unity, as long as you have the right libraries, and Linux lets you have multiple desktop environments installed and you can select which you want at login from the session select screen. There's nothing at all to stop you from having KDE, GNOME 3, Unity, LXDE and XFCE all installed on the same Linux box and trying them all out.

[ballreward]

21. Have you tried Cinnamon Desktop from Linux Mint?

I had installed Linux Mint 12 and ended up with a Desktop I really liked, a Gnome 3 type setup that more efficient for my style of work.. I found it was called Cinnamon a variation of the Gnome 3 but one users who liked Gnome 2 could get comfortable with.
I tried Mint 12 when it just was released and my computer had some issues with programs being installed but not automatically being put in the menu. I had to manually do that and that got to be annoying sad I really liked Mint 12.
I found that my computer for what ever reason worked extremely well on Ubuntu 11.10, No menu issues, but my work flow did not get along with Unity.

Found a solution! Found instructions on how to add the PPA that held Cinnamon Desktop into Ubuntu 11,10 ( this is all command line work, shows the value of using command line) Then apt-get install Cinnamon. It all went great now I have the option to switch and use Linux Mint Cinnamon Desktop instead of Unity, with a OS that my computer likes. That is one of the pluses that keep me with Linux. If you have not tried Cinnamon and Unity is not working for you Cinnamon is a good alternative to try.

[RKP5637]

22. I've found Kubuntu 11.10 with KDE to be working really well on one of

the systems here. Next time I do some upgrades on another system I'll try Mint as I've heard some really good things about Mint! Thanks for all of the info you provided!!!

[BuroshKozorg]

25. I don't like Unity

I switched to KDE after about a few days. I hear that Ubuntu 12 is going to be worse though

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/103797-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin-unveiled

Looks like it's more oriented towards tablet PC's, which is not going to be good for those with laptops or desktops.

[knightfiend]

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