i am experimenting with fedora linux.

[AllaN01Bear]

any likes , dislikes , pet peeves .
any easy way to install software packages other than using sudo. i tried to install a softare package using sudo and term didnt recognce sudo. i am lookiing to install a solitiare game and a basic interpeter.)chipmunk basic. and maybe later python.
who knows .
also am looking for a menu program choice 1 choice2 etc. thanks in advance

[ret5hd]

1. You have to be root to sudo (IIRC)...

I always liked fedora. Don’t use it anymore though.

[usonian]

2. RedHat has upset the applecart.

https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/23/red_hat_centos_move/

Red Hat has decided to stop making the source code of RHEL available to the public. From now on it will only be available to customers — who can't legally share it.

A superficially modest blog post from a senior Hatter announces that going forward, the company will only publish the source code of its CentOS Stream product to the world. In other words, only paying customers will be able to obtain the source code to Red Hat Enterprise Linux… And under the terms of their contracts with the Hat, that means that they can't publish it.

This is very bad news for downstream projects which rebuild the RHEL source code to produce compatible distributions, such as AlmaLinux, Rocky Linux, EuroLinux, and Oracle Unbreakable Linux.

The core difference is that CentOS Stream is upstream of RHEL: it's what will become the next point release of RHEL. At risk of sounding uncharitable, it's a sort of continuous rolling beta of the next version of RHEL. Alma, Rocky, and so on, and the former CentOS Linux, were downstream of RHEL: they were rebuilds from the same source code, guaranteeing perfect compatibility. So you could run one of the rebuilds, without paying Red Hat anything, while using the same drivers and getting perfect compatibility with RHEL apps.

You don't get that with CentOS Stream: It's a preview of the future of RHEL. Which is handy if you are a partner company developing products or drivers to run on RHEL, or you're a customer who wants to know what's going to come next. It's much less useful if you just want to run RHEL without paying. Or, of course, if you want to build your own copy of RHEL. We suspect that the wider RHEL user community doesn't care about Stream very much, and that may be a motivation behind the latest move.

Rocky Linux claims to have found 'path forward' from CentOS source purge
Ripples rebounding and reflecting from Red Hat's rebuff of RHEL rebuilds
https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/28/rocky_linux_rhel_ripples/

The backlash against Red Hat's decision to stop distributing the source code of RHEL for free to non-customers continues to widen.

Last week, we reported that Red Hat would pull the sources of its enterprise distribution from its public Git servers. To quote Douglas Adams once again: "This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

...
Meanwhile, though, the ripples continue to spread. Former Hatter Jeff Law posted an elegant critique to the Fedora-devel list, and the maintainers of probably the oldest RHEL rebuild still standing, Springdale Linux, have also noted that the move will cause them problems. An academic rebuild, Springdale used to be called PUIAS Linux after Princeton University and the Institute of Advanced Studies where it was created, and it predates even CentOS Linux.

Blogger and vlogger Jeff Geerling, who we've written about more than once before, is furious. Although he's probably best known for his Raspberry Pi-related content, Geerling is a prolific author of both playbooks, and perhaps more importantly textbooks, for the Ansible infrastructure-as-code tool, which Red Hat has owned since 2015. Geerling is removing support for RHEL from his tools. That won't merely inconvenience this community, it'll hurt.

Short version is that RedHat has kind of pulled the rug from under a damn lot of people, and nobody knows how it will affect non-enterpri$e customers and users.

Given Fedora's popularity, you are probably OK.

I personally am wary of capitalists wearing red hats.

[BootinUp]

3. I have only used Debian/Ubuntu and its been awhile

since I really did much. At one time I was building file servers , web servers, and fax servers but only for my use or company use. Fedora is a little different I assume than what I have used. But I normally used a gui package manager. Fedora must have one.

[AllaN01Bear]

4. since when does red hat own source code . the whole idea of linux w

as to be free to everyone . violates the gnu princible

[ret5hd]

5. My maybe very faulty understanding:

Linux kernel is open.

Anything someone (individual or group) writes and puts under the open source license is open.

Anything open sourced and modified by someone is still open source.

Anything someone (individual or group) writes and wants to keep “private” (a set of libraries or routines that stands independent of open source stuff) but can be called by the kernel and/or other open source code MAY be copyrighted.

So all the stuff that Redhat uses that is open will still be open. But the stand-alone routines/code/libraries that they wrote completely independently may be closed.

That’s my understanding of the open source license. It doesn’t stop Chase or GM or Redhat or whoever from writing proprietary code that uses open-source Linux.

[HuskyOffset]

6. If my understanding is correct

Redhat is required by the GPL to make the source code of anything under the GPL available to anyone they distribute binaries to. They cannot prevent those people from further distributing the source code, but if they do, Redhat will decline to continue doing business with them, which means they're cut off from any future source code and binaries. Redhat is primarily in the business of selling support, but they only supply the binaries of their distribution to their paying customers, so those are the only people they are required to provide the source code to.

It's underhanded as shit, and I'm glad my linux journey went Ubuntu->Kubuntu->Manjaro->OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, with no RHEL based distro.

[AllaN01Bear]

8. that is what i understand . i alwayys viewed rh as the microsoft of

linu world.

[HuskyOffset]

7. I've never run Fedora

but possibly take a look at flathub.org and see if the Solitaire game you're trying to install is available as a flatpak. I found instructions on how to enable Flatpak on Fedora.

I'm guessing the reason that sudo didn't work for you is that your user isn't an administrative user. Setting your user as an administrator will depend on the desktop environment you're using (XFCE, KDE Plasma, Gnome, etc.)

[AllaN01Bear]

9. hihowdi.

my helper came up with this, sudo dnf -y install aisleriot. will see if that worked . the person on instructables may have left out some parameters .

[hunter]

10. I was going to say use "yum" which shows how out of date my fedora skills are.

dnf is yum rewritten for the modern Python 3 world.

I've been using Debian on my own machines for a long time.

I'm not a fan of the Flatpak philosophy mentioned above. It goes against my own own personal philosophy, related to the Unix Philosophy to keep things simple and small. BSD was the operating system I cut my teeth on, a long time ago.

A Flatpak is more than the simple application you want to run. It also carries all the baggage it needs to run with it, everything including the kitchen sink.

If an ordinary app is simply a motorcycle, then a Flatpak is a huge motor home that comes with the motorcycle.

On a motorcycle-only trip across the country you might eat in local restaurants and sleep in motels. On a Flatpak motorcycle trip you eat and sleep in the motor home. A computer with limited resources might have some trouble finding a place to park the huge motor home.

Linux Mint or Raspberry Pi Desktop for PC and Mac may be friendlier Linux distributions for the novice than Fedora. On the other hand, if you've already got Fedora up and running you've already jumped through most of the major hurdles.