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Eugene

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Thu Aug 15, 2019, 02:08 PM Aug 2019

The census citizenship question failed. But Alabama is seeking to exclude undocumented immigrants in

Source: Washington Post

The census citizenship question failed. But Alabama is seeking to exclude undocumented immigrants in apportioning congressional seats.

By Tara Bahrampour August 15 at 7:00 AM

When the government announced plans last year to ask about citizenship on the 2020 Census, analysts inside and outside the Census Bureau warned it could scare many immigrants from being counted. The question was ultimately blocked by legal challenges.

But the fight over the census citizenship question seems to have been just one skirmish in a larger war over who deserves to be part of America’s democracy. Over the course of Donald Trump’s presidency, administration officials have signaled a desire to fundamentally alter the country’s system of representation, making it far more restrictive than ever before. In doing so, some have alluded to a lawsuit that, even if it fails, may still succeed in shaping the debate over representation.

Filed last year by the state of Alabama and Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.) against the Commerce Department and the Census Bureau, it argues that the current system of apportioning congressional seats gives an unfair electoral advantage to states with more undocumented immigrants. It says immigrants should not be counted for apportionment or federal funding if they are not in the United States legally, even if they do fill out the decennial survey. A hearing is scheduled for Sept. 6.

The concept is a radical shift from anything the country has done in the past. But it is in line with public and private statements from some government officials since Trump took office. It comes as the administration has said it will collect citizenship information from administrative records, which could make it easier for the government to estimate the number of undocumented immigrants in the future.

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The census citizenship question failed. But Alabama is seeking to exclude undocumented immigrants in (Original Post) Eugene Aug 2019 OP
I wonder, if this counting of undocumented immigrants really does hurt the apportioning... SWBTATTReg Aug 2019 #1
Silver lining TheRealNorth Aug 2019 #2
They want it to apply to the whole country, not just Alabama. subterranean Aug 2019 #3

SWBTATTReg

(24,158 posts)
1. I wonder, if this counting of undocumented immigrants really does hurt the apportioning...
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 02:24 PM
Aug 2019

of seats in Congress? After all, most agricultural areas rely on immigrant labor (or at least a lot of it), which seem to be in rural, repug areas. Thus, would make sense that counts wouldn't be that far off?

Am I missing something?

TheRealNorth

(9,629 posts)
2. Silver lining
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 02:26 PM
Aug 2019

Maybe the resulting undercount will be enough to reduce Alabama's congressional apportionment/electoral votes.

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