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Stevepol

(4,234 posts)
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 03:48 PM Nov 2015

Beth Clarkson wants help in making KS vote counting verifiable.

Beth Clarkson, whose law suit asking KS Sec of State Kris Kobach to allow her to count the paper print-outs of the vote from the most recent KS election will be heard in court in March, is asking for help thwart Kobach's latest possible ploy. Several counties are now going to change the method of vote counting. This will include Sedgwick County (Wichita KS) which is the county whose voting machines she wants to recount. Beth is asking people to write letters to let the authorities know the voters' desires in this regard. Here is the letter:

http://us11.campaign-archive2.com/?u=aa64e1b3819716e3e24805728&id=2eea4f78e0&e=5b5f1d1a41

And here are the minimum requirements she feels any new vote counting method must satisfy:

http://showmethevotes.org/2015/11/01/minimum-requirements-for-a-new-voting-system/

I live in Sedgwick County and I plan to write a letter. If you are not in Sedgwick County and would like to write, you might emphasize the great concern that citizens of other states and counties in the US have to make sure the vote is fair and verifiable, that what is decided here will contribute either to the fairness or unfairness of vote counting across the country. But add anything you think might move the powers that be to make the vote VERIFIABLE. At a bare minimum, there MUST be paper to use in quick checking (auditing) or recounting in case there is reason to believe that the vote results were not arrived at honestly.

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Beth Clarkson wants help in making KS vote counting verifiable. (Original Post) Stevepol Nov 2015 OP
Done MuseRider Nov 2015 #1
League of Women Voter came around SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #3
It's Brownbackistan tzar paul Nov 2015 #5
WOO HOO for the comeback of ER! SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #2
Just posted this info in the Kansas group and General Discussion sketchy Nov 2015 #4
I'm glad the league of women voters exists. SaveTheMackerel Feb 2016 #6

MuseRider

(34,375 posts)
1. Done
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 04:00 PM
Nov 2015

from Shawnee County.

Voting should be easy and verifiable. It is neither in Kansas, in fact the League of Women Voters is hoping to start classes in Kansas because it is apparently now the hardest state to vote in and then it is not even verifiable.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
3. League of Women Voter came around
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 04:11 PM
Nov 2015

after initially blessing those #!$@ machines. Even the best can make mistakes.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
2. WOO HOO for the comeback of ER!
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 04:03 PM
Nov 2015

Will read OP and do what I can. Anybody else wants to bring back ER daily news thread, I'll take a day.

And update my bookmarks and share them.

 

SaveTheMackerel

(37 posts)
6. I'm glad the league of women voters exists.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:42 PM
Feb 2016

In a 2 party system, 1 party must have a majority and will abuse it. When we have many smaller factions, none has a majority, and institutional fraud becomes harder.

The reason parties exist is to place a candidate on the ballot with no fee or signatures, while independent candidates need way more. That is because they don't want vote splitting.

I propose the general election be 2 stage. First state has independent's and each party's nominee, all voted on by all voters. The second state is a guaranteed top 2 runoff. Let the major parties hold private nominations, since their followers often don't think anyway. Let all candidates in the first general stage have the same requirements to get on the ballot, be it a fee, signatures, or other criteria.

That will spawn more parties and break up the 2 party system.

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