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At this point not only it highly unlikely that a trade deal will be reached, they want to breach the withdrawal agreement - gotta love a far right Brexiteer government that think they can rip up legally binding international treaties because they want their empire back (the rule Britannia nonsense being a perfect example of this). NO DEAL in every sense.
They were never serious about getting a trade deal, and the only reason they negotiated the withdrawal agreement was because Parliament had tied their hands. So rip it up, tell the EU to do one... they are all ridiculous and they will not be the ones to pay the price as they wallow in their privilege.
Oh and a hard border in Ireland in 3...2...1. Dissidents causing havoc 5 minutes later. The Good Friday Agreement cannot be upheld if they rip up the withdrawal agreement, even as they spout their right wing lies and say they are doing it to protect the agreement, these English nationalists in downing street could not give a shit about Ulster.
The Guardian laid out yesterday what kind of sanctions we may face if they go ahead with their reckless idiocy
A dispute would trigger a specific legal process ending in the Luxembourg court and if the UK was found to have breached the international treaty it signed in January, the EU has powers to punish the country.
The court can impose a heavy fine on the UK, suspend part of the withdrawal agreement, launch trade wars and impose tariffs or even sanctions on British exports.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/07/eu-has-powers-to-punish-uk-if-it-breaches-brexit-treaty-experts-warn]
Good times...
UK right now. Struggling to stay afloat, but almost certainly going to sink...
Thekaspervote
(34,758 posts)Figured out what it would mean they wanted a second ntl vote which never happened
no_hypocrisy
(49,038 posts)To leave the EU and leave behind its obligations, but simultaneously, to continue the financial trade benefits as if it had stayed.
GopherGal
(2,401 posts)that they would be able to have their cake and eat it too. (i'm basically unable to think about Brexit without mentally intoning that cliche). So the failure of the "we voted to eat our cake, now give us more" negotiations after the fact somehow surprised them?
safeinOhio
(34,200 posts)Simple solutions to complex problems.
muriel_volestrangler
(102,618 posts)In the Conservative Party manifesto, he wrote: With a new Parliament and a sensible majority government, we can get that deal through in days.
It is oven-ready and every single Conservative MP elected at this election, all 365 of them, have pledged to vote for this deal immediately.
When launching his campaign on 6 November, Johnson said: Weve got a deal, oven-ready, by which we can leave the EU in just a few weeks.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/boris-johnson-oven-ready-brexit-deal-general-election-111920698.html
muriel_volestrangler
(102,618 posts)(FT, but not paywalled at the moment)
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Those close to Sir Jonathan said he was very unhappy about the decision to overwrite parts of the Northern Ireland protocol, part of the 2019 withdrawal agreement, with new powers in the UK internal market bill.
One person familiar with the events leading up to Sir Jonathans decision to resign said it had followed months of tension over the handling of the Brexit negotiations and legal disagreements with Suella Braverman, the attorney-general.
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The government is understood to have commissioned external advice which determined the government, while free to legislate domestically as it saw fit, would be in breach of international obligations if it legislated in contradiction to the withdrawal agreement.
https://www.ft.com/content/6186bf1c-055b-4de6-a643-4eea763e1b94
dreamland
(980 posts)The media helped in every way to convince the Brits that they were economically strong and better off without payments to the EU. The Brits were convinced that migrants that made things worse. Think of the immigrants as the children of divorces, where you don't get child support without kids, the Brits wanted the child support without the kids and the media was their divorce lawyer giving bad advice.
Cosmo Blues
(2,786 posts)For some reason I watch prime minister's on occasion, the dodging, the weaving, the hyperbole is unfortunately all too familiar to us on this side of the pond. As are the promises of Pie in the Sky, the perks without the downside, and the gullibility of the voters to fall for it. For me one of the biggest lies was the optimism of a great trade deal with America under this Administration, ha. It's like both of our leaders are working with Putin to damage our countries