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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 07:56 AM Sep 2019

'Nobody wants us anyway': fears of the forgotten on the Northern Irish border

“It’s Northern Ireland. Nobody wants us anyway, not in London or Dublin. We’re just the scapegoat,” says David Black as he leans over a counter in a hardware store in Fivemiletown just north of the border in Co Tyrone. “People are just fed up,” he says.
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But the uncertainty over Brexit is generating more prosaic fears in this region, fears about the normalcy of life, house prices, livelihoods and a background noise of growing dissident actitivity.

“We tried to sell our house last year and nobody will buy because of the border. It is too close. Buyers were saying they would like to buy, but they didn’t want to risk living at the border,” says Leanne Thompson, a farmer whose land is contiguous to the border, which is just a few minutes’ drive away.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/29/nobody-wants-us-anyway-fears-of-the-forgotten-on-the-northern-irish-border-brexit]

Dublin probably cares a bit more than London to be fair... London really does not give a shit. The peace would fail at the alter of Brexit and it would be worth it to them...
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'Nobody wants us anyway': fears of the forgotten on the Northern Irish border (Original Post) Soph0571 Sep 2019 OP
Maybe, just maybe Sherman A1 Sep 2019 #1
It is a possibiity Soph0571 Sep 2019 #2
"And Ireland won't take us without a huge financial settlement from the UK." mitch96 Sep 2019 #3
The UK would have to give the Republic of Ireland a financial settlement Soph0571 Sep 2019 #4
Northern Ireland is a place of poverty mitch96 Sep 2019 #5
The Celtic Tiger is very much in the Republic Soph0571 Sep 2019 #6

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
2. It is a possibiity
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 09:01 AM
Sep 2019

But the trauma before that happens would be immense. And Ireland won't take us without a huge financial settlement from the UK. They could not afford to, and the UK won't pay out.

mitch96

(14,716 posts)
3. "And Ireland won't take us without a huge financial settlement from the UK."
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 10:57 AM
Sep 2019

I don't know too much about the problems with North and the Republic. Why would Northern Ireland owe the UK money or is it the other way around?. Security fees?
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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
4. The UK would have to give the Republic of Ireland a financial settlement
Sun Sep 29, 2019, 03:05 PM
Sep 2019

Northern Ireland is a place of poverty... Ireland could not afford an all Ireland unless there were significant grants given to them by Westminster

mitch96

(14,716 posts)
5. Northern Ireland is a place of poverty
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 05:21 AM
Sep 2019

Really, I did not know that. I thought the Celtic tiger hit all of Ireland and the whole island was doing well. Doesn’t Belfast have a large ship building business?. I was up Donegal way and I must admit the northern part of the island is drop dead beautiful... Do they get much tourism?
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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
6. The Celtic Tiger is very much in the Republic
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 05:53 AM
Sep 2019

Because of generations of under investment from private enterprise (cause of the troubles) the population relies on working in the public sector - this is a very expensive model for any government

This is an interesting report on it

https://www.jrf.org.uk/press/one-three-adults-out-work-northern-ireland-makes-no-progress-poverty

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