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Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 08:24 AM Aug 2019

It's Boris Johnson or Caroline Lucas

I agree with this analysis and propose Caroline Lucas for interim PM.

GD

... There is only one way Johnson can be stopped: by the Commons placing its confidence in another one of its members, the effect of which will be to oblige the Queen to ask him or her to form a new government. This candidate will have to be backed by the main opposition party, Labour. Obviously, it would be the Labour leader himself if these were normal times. As they are not, the Liberal Democrats think Ken Clarke, a Tory survivor from the Pleistocene epoch, is the man to take the country into a safe harbour, aided perhaps by the ‘Mother of the House’ Harriet Harman.

Even if this unlikely job-share took off it could not fly with any success for very good non-party reasons. An interim administration elected simply to extend Article 50 and call an election and/or hold a referendum is not merely interim. Stopgap it may be, but what kind of stopgap it is will decide whether it is publicly acceptable. The Lib Dems seek a restoration of the days before the referendum. They have selected Harman and Clarke not because they are wise but because they are safe.

Safety at a moment like this is regressive. You cannot stand still in a hurricane. We need boldness and daring that is bolder and more daring than Johnson. Johnson claims to represent the future, or at least a future. It may be a bleak intensification of Thatcherism, yet it appears modern in spirit and positive in its claims. As an electoral showdown is looming whatever happens, Johnson and his boosterism must be opposed by a person and a set of arguments that make a better, more credible, higher-energy claim on the future, to mobilise the forces against him in a way that is appealing and not just polarising or, worst of all, reasonable in a Harman and Clarke kind of way.

The only way to stop Johnson, therefore, is with the widest possible alliance of forces who oppose a dangerous rupture with the EU, led by an MP who is backed by Labour. If Corbyn can command such a majority the job should be his. But his very qualities of unbending integrity count against him as an alliance-builder. And his claims to lead the country against a Johnson Brexit have been undermined by the catastrophic error of regarding relations with the EU as a secondary issue that can be weaponised to lever Labour into office, rather than a fundamental call about the nature and direction of the country. I don't know the House of Commons, but everyone seems to agree that Corbyn cannot command the widest possible alliance. In which case he has to ask someone else who can. Someone who can do it for all of us.

There is only one MP who is so qualified: Caroline Lucas. She personifies the commitment to democracy, the desire to unite people and an outstanding record on the environment, and is not tainted by participating in the old regime. She also has the advantage of her weakness: she does not represent a party threat to any of those calculating their own benefit...

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/its-boris-johnson-or-caroline-lucas/?fbclid=IwAR0dpHoJngDnQ7KU3Ve-KdRvE1jbUXdiyVKVj06uhruhHLfGl3HoJWoKpKQ
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It's Boris Johnson or Caroline Lucas (Original Post) Ghost Dog Aug 2019 OP
In the putin plan to take down democracies, the Brits are further along empedocles Aug 2019 #1
I believe the "Brits" are going to fight this and Iliyah Aug 2019 #2
Hope so. They are grappling with it, - the way we need to empedocles Aug 2019 #3
The US State Dept has long wanted to break up the EU... Gumboot Aug 2019 #4

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
1. In the putin plan to take down democracies, the Brits are further along
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 08:30 AM
Aug 2019

towards putin's dissolution goal than the US - which is too far along as it is .

We need to learn from the Brits!

Gumboot

(531 posts)
4. The US State Dept has long wanted to break up the EU...
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 11:54 AM
Aug 2019

... and now blames Russia for it (and everything else, besides). Always handy to have a boogeyman, isn't it?

Trump spilled the beans a few weeks ago, about Wall Street wanting to feast on the bones of the post-Brexit British economy. He singled out the NHS especially, which enraged my friends back in Britain, some of whom work in the NHS and other beleaguered public services.

I absolutely agree that Caroline Lucas would make a terrific interim PM. A staunch progressive who's always battled for working class people, rather than Britain's banks and corporations.


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