Bones found in 1989 in a Wisconsin chimney identified as man who last contacted relatives in 1970

[mahatmakanejeeves]

Bones found in 1989 in a Wisconsin chimney identified as man who last contacted relatives in 1970

Authorities say human bones found inside the chimney of a Wisconsin music store in 1989 have been identified as those of a man whose last known contact with relatives was in 1970

By The Associated Press
May 16, 2024, 11:50 AM

MADISON, Wis. -- Human bones found inside the chimney of a Wisconsin music store in 1989 have been identified as those of a man whose last known contact with relatives was in 1970, authorities said. ... The DNA Doe Project, a nonprofit that uses genealogy to identify unknown persons, announced this week that the bones are those of Ronnie Joe Kirk, who was originally from Tulsa, Oklahoma, the Wisconsin State Journal reported.

His bones and skull were found in September 1989 in Madison, Wisconsin, in a pile at the bottom of the narrow chimney of a since-demolished building that then housed a music store. ... Authorities tried unsuccessfully to identify the remains of the person, whom they called “Chimney Doe.”

But in late 2018, Madison Police Detective Lindsey Ludden brought the case to the DNA Doe Project and hair samples from the skull were sent in 2021 to Astrea Forensics, a California-based DNA sequencing company that specializes in degraded samples.

Gwen Knapp of the DNA Doe Project said it took more than two years to develop a DNA profile suitable for investigating genetic genealogy. That led to the bones being identified as those of Kirk, who was born in 1942, was adopted, married twice and had three children.

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[Irish_Dem]

1. Genetic genealogy uses DNA and genealogy to identify a person.

This is one of my hobbies. I use this method in adoption searches.
People trying to find birth parents or grandparents.
Or searching for a mystery ancestor.

It requires a good knowledge of autosomal and MtDNa and YDNA.
And very good skills in genealogy, this must be impeccable.
And of course investigative skills and logical reasoning ability.

If you have a DNA sample and some patience you can identify most Americans.

[CanonRay]

2. I started volunteering with Doe/DNA in 2018

although I didn't work on this case. Interesting work.

[sybylla]

3. Makes sense that this took so long. Sounds like the dude was trying to avoid supporting ex and kid.

Being from another state, no one local would have spoken up about someone missing.

Forensic reports said the "body" (my guess is it was body parts because 12" chimney) was in the chimney between 2 months and 2 years.

The Milwaukee JS has a free article with more detail in it. You can find it at the link.

Edited to add that I lived in the Madison area when this happened. Lots of speculation swirling at the time, but the police either didn't know much or weren't releasing much for details until it became a cold case.

[AllyCat]

4. I remember the music store's advertising:

“Good, and occasionally Loud music”.

So sorry for family missing him. Wonder if a perpetrator will ever be found.