Judge Not Sure If Men Kyle Rittenhouse Shot Are Victims Or Satisfied Bullet Recipients

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Last edited Wed Oct 27, 2021, 08:33 PM - Edit history (1)

Kind'a a poor headline...


Judge Bruce Schroeder, who's presiding over Kyle Rittenhouse's double murder case, set some ground rules on how lawyers can refer to the men Rittenhouse forcibly evicted from existence last summer. After the prosecution and defense made their last-minute motions, Judge Schroeder ruled that no one can refer to the three men Rittenhouse shot as “victims."

From ABC 7 Chicago:

"The word 'victim' is a loaded, loaded word," he said. "'Alleged victim' is a cousin to it."
“Victim" isn't a loaded word. What's loaded was the assault-style rifle he used to shoot three people. “Alleged victim" is literally the point of the trial. Rittenhouse is alleged to have committed first-degree intentional homicide, first-degree reckless homicide, and attempted first-degree intentional reckless homicide. (He's also charged with violating the city's temporary 7 p.m. curfew.) These charges, excluding the curfew violation, require victims, human beings who'd still be alive and/or unmaimed today if not for Rittenhouse.

So, how can the prosecution and defense refer to the people Rittenhouse mowed down like dogs? Judge Schroeder is fine with rioters, looters, and arsonists. Those descriptors apparently have no negative connotations. They probably turn up all the time in marriage vows.

The judge said, "If more than one of them were engaged in arson, rioting, looting, I'm not going to tell the defense you can't call them that, “ to which I must retort, “Huh?" How can the defense prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the victims (fuck you, your honor) had committed these crimes? The jury came to see The Trial Of Kyle Rittenhouse. This is an entirely separate production the judge is trying to greenlight.

https://www.wonkette.com/judge-not-sure-if-men-kyle-rittenhouse-shot-are-victims-or-satisfied-bullet-recipients


A friend is shooting pics for AP and will be there for the trial. I've seen his pre-trial pics and I can s say this... the picture of the judge he took, his face is intense and beyond serious. I don't think he's favoring anybody; As it should be.

[viva la]

1. Columnist Will Bunch suggested that the prosecutor refer to:

Dead person 1
Dead person 2
Maimed person 1

[ratchiweenie]

5. They could also use marks, targets, prey, mugs.....

[Bev54]

2. Yes I heard someone on MSNBC say tonight

that it is not unusual, in self defense cases, for the judge not to allow the prosecution to call the victim, victim. While I, and no doubt most of us here know that the self defense theory is bullshit, that is what the defense lawyers are going with, so the judge has to take it seriously.

[Hoyt]

3. Problem is that defense is claiming the killer was attacked by the first person,

the second person pulled his own gun on the killer, and the third attacked the killer with a skate board.

I think Rittenhouse was guilty the minute he walked down the street with an assault style weapon hanging around his neck, but no court or jury will look at it that way.

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4. Pics are available at Zumapress.com n/t

[Jimbo S]

6. Pre-emptive officiating?

I'm not a legal scholar. I don't have a big issue with the judge. Don't give the defense something they can later file an appeal/Kyle is free awaiting appeal.