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appalachiablue

(42,908 posts)
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 03:08 PM Jan 2023

Virginia Teacher Who Was Shot by 6 Year Old Student Tried to Confiscate Gun, Report

'Virginia teacher who was shot by six-year-old tried to confiscate gun – report,' The Guardian, Jan. 9, 2023. - Abby Zwerner, 25, had life-threatening injuries but is now continuing to improve in hospital -

The Virginia school teacher shot by her six-year-old student was injured after she sought to confiscate the weapon from the child who had revealed the gun in class, a parent of another child in the class has said. Brittaney Gregory, whose son is in the same class as the shooter at Richneck elementary school in Newport News, Virginia, detailed her son’s reaction to the shocking scene to the Washington Post newspaper. Gregory said her son told her he that he felt like he couldn’t breathe when the gun was fired.

Gregory said the class was reading and about to go to art class when the child pulled a handgun from their backpack and pointed it at his teacher, Abby Zwerner. “She was going to confiscate it, and that’s when he shot,” Gregory told the Post. Gregory described Zwerner as a “sweet lady” and “very attentive”. She said Zwerner was her son’s favorite teacher. Zwerner, 25, had injuries described as life-threatening but she is now continuing to improve in the hospital. She was shot in the abdomen through her hand. After she was shot, the teacher told the other students to run. The students stayed in lockdown in another teacher’s classroom.

It is not known how the child came to be in possession of the handgun he used to shoot his teacher. The six-year old remains in custody and Newport News city officials have said it is not likely a child so young can be prosecuted, but his guardian or other adult could face misdemeanor charges if the gun came from the child’s home.

The Newport News mayor, Phillip Jones, said: “Newport News is a strong community, but we are saddened and disheartened by the terrible tragedy that took place at Richneck elementary school. It is almost impossible to wrap our minds around the fact that a six-year-old first-grader brought a loaded handgun to our school and shot a teacher; however, this is exactly what our community is grappling with today. Our thoughts and prayers are with the teacher and her family, and we are hopeful she will recover from this ordeal.” In a statement, Virginia’s governor, Glenn Youngkin, said:.. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/09/virginia-teacher-shot-newport-news-richneck-elementary-abby-zwerner

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Virginia Teacher Who Was Shot by 6 Year Old Student Tried to Confiscate Gun, Report (Original Post) appalachiablue Jan 2023 OP
where is the six year old good guy Casady1 Jan 2023 #1
For sure, the gun nuttery prevails.. appalachiablue Jan 2023 #7
Sascha Baron Cohen one step ahead of you! Twisted and funny. Lucky Luciano Jan 2023 #26
This can't be real. rubbersole Jan 2023 #30
I have no idea how he keeps a straight face playing those pranks. Lucky Luciano Jan 2023 #50
Oh. We were told the other day that the child shot the teacher because Ocelot II Jan 2023 #2
Absolutely, print the gd truth! appalachiablue Jan 2023 #4
That allegation appeared on DU Ocelot II Jan 2023 #6
Not again, you and me both.. appalachiablue Jan 2023 #9
Where was that BS propagated? maxsolomon Jan 2023 #17
A couple of threads that were removed, fortunately. Ocelot II Jan 2023 #21
Glad to hear they were removed! ShazzieB Jan 2023 #46
Teacher was clearly engaged in a violation of the kid's 2nd Amendment rights Effete Snob Jan 2023 #3
Yes, sadly...crazy country appalachiablue Jan 2023 #5
Supreme Court will rule all children have the right to bring loaded guns to school. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #12
The Constitution does not say anything about age limits Effete Snob Jan 2023 #14
Exactly. Kids are Americans. Irish_Dem Jan 2023 #28
I don't think it's right that they are Quakerfriend Jan 2023 #8
At risk from whom? Ocelot II Jan 2023 #10
Internet loons Effete Snob Jan 2023 #16
This! n/t Quakerfriend Jan 2023 #20
Everybody is at risk from internet loons. Ocelot II Jan 2023 #22
Pretty much anyone whose name pops up in a media-saturation story gets death threats Effete Snob Jan 2023 #32
mental health screening and other feeble half-measures GenXer47 Jan 2023 #11
+1 appalachiablue Jan 2023 #31
Misdemeanor??????? LakeArenal Jan 2023 #13
That was my thought too. blueinredohio Jan 2023 #18
It is almost impossible to wrap our minds around the fact that a six-year-old first-grader brought a Blues Heron Jan 2023 #15
+1 scary as hell appalachiablue Jan 2023 #19
A kid that age doesn't understand what it really means Ocelot II Jan 2023 #23
Exactly, but it's not hard to wrap one's mind around it. I'm surprised it doesn't happen more. Blues Heron Jan 2023 #24
I suspect that the kid didn't even know it was a real gun. HE'S/SHE'S SIX! 70sEraVet Jan 2023 #43
When I was a kid in the 80's.... TheRealNorth Jan 2023 #53
Look at Virginia's loose gun laws Wicked Blue Jan 2023 #33
The kid's parents should be Cha Jan 2023 #25
Any adult or any aged person who *legally owned that gun should be held responsible Tikki Jan 2023 #27
What is the Republican solution? TheRealNorth Jan 2023 #29
What the "news" was reporting a few days back: GreenWave Jan 2023 #36
Substitute "school" for "the mall" in this cartoon. Diamond_Dog Jan 2023 #34
The story just keeps evolving. GreenWave Jan 2023 #35
That she is alive after a gut shot is freaking amazing. irisblue Jan 2023 #37
Everything is fine, they sent thoughts and prayers. twodogsbarking Jan 2023 #38
I hear thoughts and prayers are really good at healing bullet wounds... TheRealNorth Jan 2023 #40
Is there a GoFundMe for Abby Zwerner? raging moderate Jan 2023 #39
Rethuglican governor is "...praying for the continued safety of all students ..." OMGWTF Jan 2023 #41
The governor of VA is Youngkin, right? ShazzieB Jan 2023 #47
Misdemeanor???? The idiot parents might get charged with a misdemeanor? AllyCat Jan 2023 #42
I agree100%. On the bright side, the teacher should be able to sue whoever owns the weapon. 70sEraVet Jan 2023 #45
whoever made a loaded gun barbtries Jan 2023 #44
This part is confusing me. ShazzieB Jan 2023 #48
Maybe the gun is unregistered/doesn't have a paper trail? TheRealNorth Jan 2023 #52
Yeah, I thought of that. 🙁 ShazzieB Jan 2023 #54
Another issue to cause even more teachers to leave public, 'govt.' schools. Tragic. appalachiablue Jan 2023 #49
Bring your gun to school day may not be a good idea. twodogsbarking Jan 2023 #51

Lucky Luciano

(11,428 posts)
50. I have no idea how he keeps a straight face playing those pranks.
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 07:44 PM
Jan 2023

Funnily enough, Matt Gaetz came across as the least stupid of all his marks in this video.

Joe Walsh was interviewed later explaining how he got duped.

Nothing tops this one though…the humiliation is epic and well deserved:



Roy Moore also lost his lawsuit from this prank:

Ocelot II

(120,871 posts)
2. Oh. We were told the other day that the child shot the teacher because
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 03:14 PM
Jan 2023

the teacher must have been hitting the children. But I guess she wasn't. It's nice to have evidence before making ridiculous and occasionally defamatory pronouncements...

Ocelot II

(120,871 posts)
6. That allegation appeared on DU
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 03:18 PM
Jan 2023

and was apparently a figment of the poster's imagination. I hope we don't see it again.

ShazzieB

(18,674 posts)
46. Glad to hear they were removed!
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 06:38 PM
Jan 2023

I didn't see any of that, but it sounds like speculation that got way out of hand. People should be careful about that kind of thing, imo. It can quickly become a slippery slope.

Irish_Dem

(57,584 posts)
12. Supreme Court will rule all children have the right to bring loaded guns to school.
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 03:23 PM
Jan 2023

And when children shoot and kill their teachers there will be no consequences.
Maybe a parent will get a misdemeanor.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
14. The Constitution does not say anything about age limits
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 03:24 PM
Jan 2023

Is the kid a person? Yep.

Heck, if they gave firearms to fetuses, then they could fend off abortions by themselves.

Irish_Dem

(57,584 posts)
28. Exactly. Kids are Americans.
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 04:03 PM
Jan 2023

All Americans get guns.

Oh God. The little picture now in my head of the SC ruling all pregnant women have
to have tiny little guns jammed up their veejays.

Quakerfriend

(5,655 posts)
8. I don't think it's right that they are
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 03:20 PM
Jan 2023

releasing the teacher’s or other student’s
names- It may put them at further risk.

The parents of the shooter should be in jail-
if the gun was theirs.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
32. Pretty much anyone whose name pops up in a media-saturation story gets death threats
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 04:20 PM
Jan 2023

It's bizarre how that phenomenon gets treated here, since whether the "so and so is getting death threats" trope is taken seriously on DU frequently depends on who it is. If the target is someone we don't like then it is "false flag" and "trolls", but if if is someone we like then it is to be taken as sincere.

There are people who simply harass anyone who appears in the media for any reason.
 

GenXer47

(1,204 posts)
11. mental health screening and other feeble half-measures
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 03:21 PM
Jan 2023

are moot in this case. It happened because we awash with guns.
When you do the math, by the time this kid graduates from high school, there will be well over a billion guns in a country of 350 million.
Guns don't rot, they don't rust, they don't expire like yogurt. The are cumulative and we will soon have enough to fill evaporated Lake Tahoe.
This is the right wing fever dream we are living under and I hate it.

LakeArenal

(29,805 posts)
13. Misdemeanor???????
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 03:23 PM
Jan 2023

“I almost died and all the gun owner got was a fine or community service?”
Ay ay ay!!!!

Blues Heron

(6,133 posts)
15. It is almost impossible to wrap our minds around the fact that a six-year-old first-grader brought a
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 03:25 PM
Jan 2023

It is almost impossible to wrap our minds around the fact that a six-year-old first-grader brought a loaded handgun to our school and shot a teacher;
-Newport News mayor, Phillip Jones,


Why is it impossible? Kids get their hands on guns every day in this firearm-saturated land. Best get wrapping- this kind of thing isn’t even remotely far fetched, it’s an inevitable consequence of having so many guns with so few restrictions.

Ocelot II

(120,871 posts)
23. A kid that age doesn't understand what it really means
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 03:43 PM
Jan 2023

to shoot someone with a gun. He's probably seen a lot of gun violence on tv but he's too young to understand what's real and what isn't - he's learned only that the people on tv use guns to get their way or to solve arguments. If his parents kept a loaded gun in their home and didn't secure it, it was their fault that the kid brought it to school, maybe just to show off with even if he didn't intend to shoot anybody in the first place. This sort of thing happens far too often and it's always the fault of careless adults.

70sEraVet

(4,145 posts)
43. I suspect that the kid didn't even know it was a real gun. HE'S/SHE'S SIX!
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 06:00 PM
Jan 2023

And when the teacher tried to take it away, there's the possibility that SHE didn't realize it was a real gun.
And this is absolutely ludicrous that leaving a LOADED gun in a home with small children is only a misdemeanor charge! The NRA writes the gun laws in our country.

Wicked Blue

(6,655 posts)
33. Look at Virginia's loose gun laws
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 04:31 PM
Jan 2023

My BIL moved from NJ to Richmond. He says he is shocked to see assault rifles carried openly in supermarkets, etc.

No doubt this child has seen terrible examples of people carrying guns his entire life

Tikki

(14,795 posts)
27. Any adult or any aged person who *legally owned that gun should be held responsible
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 03:53 PM
Jan 2023

for that child being in possession of that weapon.
I don’t care if it was a neighbor’s gun or some extended family’s gun or a friend of the family’s gun.
It wasn’t secured…they are responsible.

Tikki
*even illegally if they can prove who illegally had possession of the gun.

TheRealNorth

(9,629 posts)
29. What is the Republican solution?
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 04:07 PM
Jan 2023

When the 6-year old pulls the gun, the teacher pulls their own gun and shoots the 6 year-old?

GreenWave

(9,193 posts)
36. What the "news" was reporting a few days back:
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 05:12 PM
Jan 2023

THe gunman is too young to be tried as an adult.
He is also too young to be tried as a juvenile.
It is doubtful the parents get custody of him again.

GreenWave

(9,193 posts)
35. The story just keeps evolving.
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 05:08 PM
Jan 2023

First she was early 30's, then 30 now 25.
Shot in the chest, now in the abdomen.
Reporters! Do some research!

raging moderate

(4,502 posts)
39. Is there a GoFundMe for Abby Zwerner?
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 05:36 PM
Jan 2023

Her heroic effort to take that gun away may have saved the lives of several children.

OMGWTF

(4,441 posts)
41. Rethuglican governor is "...praying for the continued safety of all students ..."
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 05:40 PM
Jan 2023

That little kid could have easily shot a classmate. Fk you! How about praying for the full recovery of the teacher who was shot and doing something about guns?

ShazzieB

(18,674 posts)
47. The governor of VA is Youngkin, right?
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 06:43 PM
Jan 2023

He's a loon. I'm not surprised that he'd say something like that.

AllyCat

(17,104 posts)
42. Misdemeanor???? The idiot parents might get charged with a misdemeanor?
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 05:51 PM
Jan 2023

WTH?? Criminal liability seems fair for these gun nuts.

barbtries

(29,800 posts)
44. whoever made a loaded gun
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 06:02 PM
Jan 2023

available to a six year old should face prison time. jeezus this is truly insane.

ShazzieB

(18,674 posts)
48. This part is confusing me.
Mon Jan 9, 2023, 06:50 PM
Jan 2023
It is not known how the child came to be in possession of the handgun he used to shoot his teacher. The six-year old remains in custody and Newport News city officials have said it is not likely a child so young can be prosecuted, but his guardian or other adult could face misdemeanor charges if the gun came from the child’s home.


Anyone else think it's weird that they still haven't figured out where the kid got the gun? Are family members refusing to talk, or did the gun actually not come from the kid's home? And what does the kid say? A 6 year old is old enough to answer questions about how they got hold of a thing.

Just scratching my head over why this is turning out to be so hard to get to the bottom of. 🤔

TheRealNorth

(9,629 posts)
52. Maybe the gun is unregistered/doesn't have a paper trail?
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 12:47 PM
Jan 2023

You would presume the police would ask the kid where he got the gun, but who knows if the parents lawyered up quickly and prevented any questioning of the child.

twodogsbarking

(12,228 posts)
51. Bring your gun to school day may not be a good idea.
Tue Jan 10, 2023, 07:09 AM
Jan 2023

Maybe Congress can start an investigation. Special committee, yada.

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