Police slow to engage with gunman because 'they could've been shot,' official says

[LetMyPeopleVote]

This is their job. Children died because the police was to scared to go in. If an 18 year old can out gun the police, then we need to keep weapons of war from school shooters.

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Police were reluctant to immediately engage with the gunman who spent an hour inside the elementary school in Uvalde, Tex., where he killed 19 children and two adults because “they could’ve been shot,” a lieutenant with the Texas Department of Public Safety said in a CNN interview.

Law enforcement officers have faced mounting criticism from some parents who say police could have intervened sooner against 18-year-old Salvador Ramos in an effort from officers that was initially deemed by Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) as a “quick response.” Police who arrived at the school retreated as shots rang out, state authorities said Thursday, and it took an hour before a tactical unit led by federal Border Patrol agents went into a classroom and killed the gunman.

Texas Department of Public Safety spokesman Lt. Chris Olivarez defended the response in an interview Thursday with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, who asked the lieutenant to walk him through “what exactly law enforcement was doing for 60 minutes or so while the shooter remained in that classroom killing those kids and teachers?”....

Standard law enforcement guidance since the 1999 massacre at Columbine High School in Colorado says officers should pursue shooters inside buildings without waiting for specialized backup. Since Columbine, many police departments have trained officers to go after an attacker as soon as possible, to minimize the number of teachers and children shot.,,,,

“It’s like a fireman not going into a building because they might get burned,” Dean wrote.

[Shrike47]

1. At least he was honest about it; they were afraid they'd get hurt.

A sensible person is rightly afraid of a man shooting an assault rifle at people. They should be illegal.

[femmedem]

2. Maybe this honest answer will build more support for gun control.

If local police are afraid to go after shooters with assault rifles, obviously we need better gun control.

It also shows how ridiculous it is to say, "Let's just arm all the teachers. Problem solved."

[Bayard]

3. Sacrificial lambs

Teachers are supposed to bring their own guns to classrooms, and think more clearly, be better shots, be more courageous, against a guy with an assault weapon, than trained cops.

[llashram]

4. AND!!!

cowards all. Listening to shots and terrified screams of children and doing nothing. My, my, my... my gut boils with extreme anger at these "heroes" Abbott called them.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

5. He bragged about.how many bills they had passed to

Harden the schools defenses. Now is the time for the press to replay the words he spoke a the beginning of the presser that Beto interrupted.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

6. For this thread

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7. Nothing says ban assault rifles like cops being scared of the shooter who has one.

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[Rhiannon12866]

10. +1000!

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8. For this thread

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9. Parents in Uvalde had good reason to expect police to do more

We need a full investigation. The parents of these children have every right to be upset at how this matter was handled

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It’s hard to imagine a more righteous anger than that of the parents being kept at a distance from Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Tex., on Tuesday. A gunman was inside the building with their children while police were outside, holding them back. Any parent can explain the often-irrational anguish that comes from being unwillingly separated from their children. That the immediate barrier between these parents and their kids were police, the people entrusted to keep these kids safe, must have been fully enraging.

What’s still not entirely clear is the extent to which that anger was justified. There were police outside, managing the crowd, but there also appear to have been police inside the school. Parents were furious that the police outside weren’t acting to protect their families, but they couldn’t see what was happening within the school’s walls.

We can say with some confidence that the police outside the building may not have been communicating with those parents clearly, given the way the public story about law enforcement’s response has evolved since the massacre took place. We can also say with some confidence that the response did not reflect the expectations that residents of Uvalde probably had for their police force.....

We can’t gloss over Olivarez’s other point, though, that officers were wary of moving forward out of the risk of being shot. We should apply the same caution to his presentation of the officers’ state of mind as we should to any other secondhand commentary. But if that is true, it’s a remarkable deviation from what the public has been taught to expect from law enforcement......

So those parents were there, outside of the school with the police, while their kids were inside with the shooter. They expected more police to rush in; some parents even floated with the idea of running in themselves. One mother did, according to the Wall Street Journal: After being detained by police, she found an unguarded area and sneaked into the building to take her kids out. But what the parents saw was caution they found inexplicable. What an official told Wolf Blitzer is that “caution” was the watchword within the school’s walls, as well.