Pennsylvania
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Nearly 40,000 people are following a new Facebook page containing a list of Pennsylvania restaurants refusing to close their dining rooms during the pandemic. Als Cafe in Bethel Park is on the list, and owner Rod Ambrogi says its simple:
Were in dire need now for some kind of financial help, which were not getting from the state or the [federal] government, he said Monday. So somebodys got to stand up for their rights to try to make a living.
He said his restaurant and employees cant survive by serving take-out only.
Theyre worried about paying their rent or buying their children Christmas gifts. So we made the decision and the restaurant employees want to stay open, so thats what Im doing. Im standing up for what I believe is right.
Read more: https://www.post-gazette.com/life/dining/2020/12/15/Restaurants-Governor-Wolf-pandemic-restrictions-pittsburgh-pennsylvania-covid-19-businesses/stories/202012140133
Blues Heron
(6,133 posts)Yeah that makes sense, Jesus would have loved that! Oh sorry, I mean Satan
Proud liberal 80
(4,305 posts)Who would be saying why didnt he comply, you have to respect authority if a black man was killed by police.
DeminPennswoods
(16,317 posts)I've dined out during the epidemic. The PA DoH/CDC rules are being followed.
The real issue is the inconsistency of closings. All other businesses can have up to 50% of the max occupancy as determined by the fire marshall. That means 100s in places like Walmart, Home Depot, etc, and you can spend just as much time there shopping or browsing as you would eating in a small dining establishment that has a max occupancy of many fewer.
These business owners are right, there's no financial help there for them. Just a few weeks ago, the GOP-controlled state legislature grabbed 1.3B of unspent CARE Act funds and applied it to close a gap in the state budget rather than distribute it to people and businesses who need it. So far, no additional help from Congress either. I can't blame any of them for deciding to do what they feel they need to do to survive.
Further, there was another recent story in the Post-Gazette about how more people are stealing food, basic staples, not exotic or expensive items.
Blues Heron
(6,133 posts)DeminPennswoods
(16,317 posts)pass judgement on people trying to survive from day-to-day.
Blues Heron
(6,133 posts)or be locked up. This nonsense has cost us over 300,000 lives.
BlueTsunami2018
(4,006 posts)They arent getting any help at all from the government. Unemployment, if any of these people are eligible, is not enough to live on without the supplemental help and mortgage companies and landlords arent giving anyone a break. Im not sure what theyre supposed to do.
Blues Heron
(6,133 posts)They need to comply or be shut down. Maybe voting red wasn't the most intelligent of choices as they are now finding out. Some people learn the hard way.
DeminPennswoods
(16,317 posts)to make.
Blues Heron
(6,133 posts)Compliance with science is actually a DEM trait not a PUKE trait.
DeminPennswoods
(16,317 posts)If not, you should.
Blues Heron
(6,133 posts)If they don't comply with health orders they should be shut down. ZERO tolerance for spreaders of any party. This nonsense has gone on far too long.
jrthin
(4,964 posts)Desperate people doing desperate things like participating in super spreader events shouldn't be where we want to rest our head. Desperate people in need of money rob, hold people up at gun point (which sometimes don't turn out well for the victims), and that behavior wouldn't be excused. One may say that there is no comparison between these restaurants and the robbers' motivation and action, but I don't see the difference. Both claim they are desperate, both are breaking the law. Putting people's lives in danger does not and should not justify keeping one's business open.
BlueTsunami2018
(4,006 posts)How is this any better than the right?
DeminPennswoods
(16,317 posts)I can't believe the responses are so callous. People are desperate and hungry and they are being ordered by people who aren't to shut down and, well, que sera, sera.
I think some posters might be in need of a visit by the ghosts of Christmas past, present and future.
FakeNoose
(35,690 posts)... at least once per week. I'm trying to help the small owners as much as I can.
However I haven't been inside a restaurant since last February. Outdoor eating isn't possible right now, but I did patronize a few outdoor establishments in warmer weather. We should try to help these small business owners who are getting no help from the government.
Meanwhile I read about those shaky shell companies (secretly owned by rich Repukes) who are getting $ millions in government handouts. THAT really gets my goat.