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elleng

(136,080 posts)
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 01:23 PM Nov 2020

Outstanding votes in Pennsylvania: Where we stand

'Pennsylvania had counted 86% of its mail ballots as shortly after 12 p.m. Thursday, according to state data.

There are more than 360,000 mail ballots left to count.

President Donald Trump currently has a lead of 115,071 votes over Joe Biden in Pennsylvania.

Here are the vote totals thus far:

Trump has 50.32%, or 3,228,960 votes.
Biden has 48.53%, or 3,113,889 votes.
As of 12:11 p.m.

Mail ballots cast: 2,600,691
Mail ballots counted: 2,239,725 or 86%

These numbers may slow down a bit today, as Allegheny will wait to process 29,000 mail ballots that were resent because of errors (need to make sure no one double voted).'

— Cynthia Fernandez (@CynthFernandez) November 5, 2020

https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/live/elections-2020-results-candidates-updates-news-pennsylvania-20201105.html

'Reports that vote counters in Allegheny County are taking the day off are misleading. Here’s the true story.
You may have seen national reports that Allegheny County is taking the day off from counting 35,000 remaining mail ballots. Those reports are misleading.

Because a mailing company sent 29,000 ballots to the wrong voters, Allegheny County cannot begin processing those votes until Friday after 5 p.m.

That’s laid out in a court settlement between the Allegheny County Board of Elections and two Republican Congressional candidates, who sued elections officials in October over their handling of the mailing error. Under a separate state Supreme Court ruling, counties can accept and count mail ballots that arrive by 5 p.m. Friday — making it the current return deadline.

The other 6,000 ballots similarly have issues that need to be reviewed by a special board that meets Friday.'

https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/live/elections-2020-results-candidates-updates-news-pennsylvania-20201105.html


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Outstanding votes in Pennsylvania: Where we stand (Original Post) elleng Nov 2020 OP
So if Joe gets 73 percent qazplm135 Nov 2020 #1
Allegheny County will run their provisional ballots and military ballots next week FakeNoose Nov 2020 #2
As of DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #3
Thanks, DeminPennswoods. elleng Nov 2020 #4
Latest on provisionals DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #5
Almost there DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #6

qazplm135

(7,501 posts)
1. So if Joe gets 73 percent
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 01:27 PM
Nov 2020

of just these mail votes he wins, assuming everything counted has been posted which is not necessarily the same thing.

Not including still some eday vote out there and then provisionals.

FakeNoose

(35,690 posts)
2. Allegheny County will run their provisional ballots and military ballots next week
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 03:15 PM
Nov 2020

The provisional ballots were issued to people who came to the polls and voted in person on Tuesday, even though they requested and received a mailed ballot. They were still allowed to vote - but it's called a provisional ballot because it won't be counted until the Board of Elections has checked to make sure the person didn't already vote (by mail or in-person.) That's why provisional ballots were created - so nobody is denied their right to vote. Even if somebody shows up at the wrong poll, or there's some other glitch.

Every county is doing the same thing, but they can't count provisional ballots until the initial run has been completed. Chump will claim "voter fraud" or something else ridiculous, of course. Fraud isn't happening anywhere. All precautions have been taken to avoid errors and to prevent double voting.

DeminPennswoods

(16,317 posts)
3. As of
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 03:19 AM
Nov 2020

early Sat AM

There are 89,282 absentee ballots yet to be counted.

The lion's share of those, a little over 52k, are in Allegheny and Philadelphia counties. About another 10.5 are in the Philadelphia collar counties. That leaves around 37k in the rest of the state.

Provisional ballots are being counted now in the smaller more rural counties.

DeminPennswoods

(16,317 posts)
5. Latest on provisionals
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 04:19 AM
Nov 2020

Right now 10 of the smallest, rural/semi-rural counties seem to have completed their provisional ballot count. Overall, provisionals averaged less than 1% (.0702%) of the total votes cast and counted. They are breaking roughly the same as the county overall with Biden slightly underperforming on provisionals relative to his vote share without them (24% on provisionals vs 29% of election day+mailed). In real numbers, that amounted to Trump picking up about 900 votes.

DeminPennswoods

(16,317 posts)
6. Almost there
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 09:05 AM
Nov 2020

There are 15 provisional ballots left to count of a total of 13,309.

Breakdown: 10,973 counted; 1,668 rejected; 653 partially counted; 15 unprocessed. I'm guessing the partially counted provisionals are ones where the voter voted at the wrong poll. The common races (pres, state row offices) count, but state rep or state sen might be in a different - the voter lives in a different area and is represented by a different state rep/sen.

Trump netted about 1500 votes from the provisionals.
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There are 53,185 mailed/absentee ballots left to count. Of those 33,048 are from counties Biden won and should skew heavily in his favor.

Allegheny county: 12,093 left
Philadelphia: 9,520 left
Montgomery: 3,833
Lehigh: 2,318
Bucks: 2,262
Erie, Chester, Centre, Dauphin, Delaware and Lackawanna all have between 900 and 200 each left.

Biden could get close to winning by 100,000 (he's 45+k ahead now) as many PA pols had predicted.

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