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Related: About this forumOklahoma changes Ryan Walters' proposal to supply 55,000 Bibles to public schools
Oklahoma changes Ryan Walters' proposal to supply 55,000 Bibles to public schools
M. Scott Carter
The Oklahoman
Published 7:09 p.m. CT Oct. 7, 2024 | Updated 12:24 p.m. CT Oct. 8, 2024
A request issued by the Oklahoma State Department of Education to purchase thousands of Bibles for public schools was significantly changed Monday after questions arose surrounding its legality. New documents posted on the Education Departments website show the vendor requirements underwent at least two major changes: the delivery date and a provision that now allows the vendor to provide Bibles and other documents such as copies of the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights separately.
Unbundling the Bible and the set of historical documents appears to expand the number of possible vendors. The new request for proposals, under a section labeled scope and description, now says: The supplier must provide only the King James Version Bible for historical accuracy and contain both the Old and New Testaments.
A second provision reads: The supplier must also provide copies of The United States Pledge of Allegiance, The U.S. Declaration of Independence, The U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These can be bound together or separately but must be bound in durable material. The earlier version of the document stated that the suppliers' Bible must include copies of The United States Pledge of Allegiance, The U.S. Declaration of Independence, The U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Additionally, the date for the receipt of offers is now Oct. 21. The original date was Oct. 14.
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The changes come after the nonprofit news outlet Oklahoma Watch published a story that chronicled how the Education Department's original request to purchase 55,000 Bibles appeared to be written for a specific copy of the Bible: the Lee Greenwood "God Bless the USA" edition of the Bible, which has been endorsed by former President Donald Trump.
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(This story was updated to add new information.)
M. Scott Carter
The Oklahoman
Published 7:09 p.m. CT Oct. 7, 2024 | Updated 12:24 p.m. CT Oct. 8, 2024
A request issued by the Oklahoma State Department of Education to purchase thousands of Bibles for public schools was significantly changed Monday after questions arose surrounding its legality. New documents posted on the Education Departments website show the vendor requirements underwent at least two major changes: the delivery date and a provision that now allows the vendor to provide Bibles and other documents such as copies of the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights separately.
Unbundling the Bible and the set of historical documents appears to expand the number of possible vendors. The new request for proposals, under a section labeled scope and description, now says: The supplier must provide only the King James Version Bible for historical accuracy and contain both the Old and New Testaments.
A second provision reads: The supplier must also provide copies of The United States Pledge of Allegiance, The U.S. Declaration of Independence, The U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These can be bound together or separately but must be bound in durable material. The earlier version of the document stated that the suppliers' Bible must include copies of The United States Pledge of Allegiance, The U.S. Declaration of Independence, The U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Additionally, the date for the receipt of offers is now Oct. 21. The original date was Oct. 14.
{snip}
The changes come after the nonprofit news outlet Oklahoma Watch published a story that chronicled how the Education Department's original request to purchase 55,000 Bibles appeared to be written for a specific copy of the Bible: the Lee Greenwood "God Bless the USA" edition of the Bible, which has been endorsed by former President Donald Trump.
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(This story was updated to add new information.)
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Oklahoma changes Ryan Walters' proposal to supply 55,000 Bibles to public schools (Original Post)
mahatmakanejeeves
Oct 9
OP
Yeah, because that makes it so much easier to swallow that they are ignoring the Constitution.
Ferrets are Cool
Oct 9
#2
dchill
(40,467 posts)1. One must respect the deeply religious.
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Ferrets are Cool
(21,957 posts)2. Yeah, because that makes it so much easier to swallow that they are ignoring the Constitution.
TlalocW
(15,624 posts)3. The thinking is that
Walters was trying to curry favor with Trump, hoping he would win and appoint him head of the Dept. Of Education
SunSeeker
(53,649 posts)5. Bad career move. Trump wants to abolish the Department of Education.
Demovictory9
(33,752 posts)7. Ryan is definitly trying to make a name for himself
rpannier
(24,572 posts)4. King James Bible
So that means the Bible used by Catholics is unacceptable?
SunSeeker
(53,649 posts)8. The new proposal now does require the Old Testament as well as the New Testament.
It appears the request for proposal is for all of the original books of the Old Testament, since the goal is "historical accuracy," per the new proposal. If all of the original books of the Old Testament are included, then that would be the Catholic Bible, yes?
As I understand it, the only difference between the Catholic and Protestant Bible is the exclusion of 7 books of the Old Testament:
[Martin Luther] tossed out the seven Old Testament books which spoke about praying for the dead and purgatory. (2 Mc 12:39-46) It was his decision to reject these books and remove them from the Bible that, in turn, created the Protestant Bible.
https://www.catholic365.com/article/24510/why-are-catholic-bibles-and-protestant-bibles-different.html#:~:text=The%20Catholic%20Bible%20contains%2073,lies%20in%20the%20Old%20Testament.
Old Crank
(4,635 posts)6. How about a copy of every currently printed bible.
That way you aren't playing favorites between The who knows how many sects there are. Plus the Satanic Bible.
JoseBalow
(5,138 posts)9. And The Necronomicon
brush
(57,471 posts)10. Can we interpret that to mean they won't be buying the trump bibles?