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NEOBuckeye

(2,820 posts)
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:45 PM Nov 2022

How do we turn things around, fellow Ohioans?

I'm asking. I don't have answers. But I do know that giving up is NOT an option. I live here and have no plans to go anywhere, anytime soon.

I'll fight the good fight to the end. But also I know that if you don't show up to play, you'll lose every time, guaranteed.

Democrats have made gains in surrounding states in surprising ways. Why not also here? What can we do to beat back the Republicans?

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How do we turn things around, fellow Ohioans? (Original Post) NEOBuckeye Nov 2022 OP
Doing the same old thing is not working. Irish_Dem Nov 2022 #1
Move? MerryHolidays Nov 2022 #2
Guardian article, Ryan-Vance Race, Pre Election, Nov. 7. Dunno abt. accuracy, some is concerning: appalachiablue Nov 2022 #3
Our system is clearly broken. NEOBuckeye Nov 2022 #4
Michigan was in the same shape we are Hope22 Nov 2022 #5

MerryHolidays

(7,715 posts)
2. Move?
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:48 PM
Nov 2022

Sorry, bad joke.

Seriously, you/we have Sherrod Brown, and President Obama won it twice. It is winnable. Those two alone could figure this out!

I am just not sure I understand why the Democratic Party didn't support Tim Ryan more.

I don't think it's a lost cause.

appalachiablue

(42,908 posts)
3. Guardian article, Ryan-Vance Race, Pre Election, Nov. 7. Dunno abt. accuracy, some is concerning:
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 11:17 PM
Nov 2022

- US midterm elections 2022. 'Democrat Tim Ryan is running against his own party – it could help him win.' Nov. 7, 2022.

In an increasingly red state, Ohio Senate hopeful Ryan blames Democrats as much as Republicans for failing the working class.

Tim Ryan stood in the middle of the electrical workers union hall, facing the signs declaring he puts “Workers First”, and prepared to call for a revolution of sorts. But this was Dayton, Ohio, where patriotism and religion are largely unquestioned even if political loyalties are fluid. So first came the national anthem and then the prayers. After that, the Democrat congressman and candidate for the US Senate laid into his targets. Ryan made a fleeting reference to his Republican opponent, JD Vance, with a derisive remark about the bestselling author of Hillbilly Elegy – a controversial account of growing up amid poverty and drug addiction – suddenly growing a beard to look more like the working-class Ohio voters he hopes will elect him.

After that, the Democrat had little to say about Vance as he turned his guns on another target. Ryan does not have the enthusiastic support of his party’s leadership in Washington even though the outcome of his race could decide control of the Senate. But then Ryan is not an enthusiast for the Democratic national leadership or his party’s record over recent decades. Ohio saw more than one-quarter of its manufacturing jobs shipped off to Mexico under the North American Free Trade Agreement (Nafta) signed by President Bill Clinton, a Democrat, in the 1990s and later to China after it joined the World Trade Organization.

At the union hall rally in Dayton, a city that has lost about a third of its population over the past 40 years as jobs disappeared, Ryan was cheered when he said Democrats were as much to blame as Republicans. “You’ve seen a broken economic system where both parties have sold out to the corporate interests that shift our jobs down to the southern part of this country, then to Mexico, then to China. There is no economic freedom if there’s no jobs here in the U.S,” he told the crowd. Ryan returned to the theme later in speaking about “people who’ve been on the other side of globalisation and automation and bad trade deals that, quite frankly, both parties passed that devastated communities like ours”.

In 2016, Donald Trump tapped into anger about the loss of jobs and its impact on communities with a promise to stop the closure of a major General Motors car plant in Lordstown, Ohio, which employed more than 10,000 workers at its peak. He told a rally in a neighbouring city he would bring back jobs to the region: “Don’t move. Don’t sell your house.” That promise helped deliver north-eastern Ohio to Trump and flip a state that twice voted to put Barack Obama into the White House. In 2019, the Lordstown plant shut anyway, adding to the woes of a city that had already lost its hospital. It was not alone. Few places Trump promised to revive saw him deliver. That has opened the door for Ryan to say the Republicans don’t have any real interest in helping working Americans because they really represent the corporations that employ them.

But many of those workers long ago decided that the Democrats aren’t serving their interests either...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/nov/07/tim-ryan-ohio-senate-midterms-jd-vance

- To consider: Peter Thiel, JD Vance's old boss put $15 Million into Vance's campaign and heavily supported other candidates as well.

NEOBuckeye

(2,820 posts)
4. Our system is clearly broken.
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 12:28 AM
Nov 2022

Peter Thiel--a fucking billionaire fascist who doesn't even live here--should never have been able to fund Vance and influence our election to the extent that he did. Getting his and other billionaires money out of our politics is a problem that must be fixed over the long haul, indeed. And there must be other steps we can take leading up to that, that will make a difference here.

Hope22

(2,877 posts)
5. Michigan was in the same shape we are
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 08:40 AM
Nov 2022

And they have pulled it all together. We could follow their lead. It requires committed people working throughout the state, boots on the ground and long hours. After Tuesday’s losses I’m not sure we have enough elected Dems to pull that off. I would love to see that initiative here and be able to volunteer and help.
On the other hand…Losing the Ohio Supreme Court last week makes the gerrymandering issue seem pretty hopeless. Without the court abortion rights, gerrymandering laws and so much more is pretty much hopeless. As a senior trapped in Ohio I am beginning to feel that young people should run for their lives. Find a state that embraces education and the Constitution. Without change in the near future our quality of life is pretty much doomed. Education in the toilet, guns in every pocket and a governor who rules from his own religious playbook. Sending Vance to DC is the nail in the coffin. We now have our own MTG / Boebert contributing to the problems of the nation. That is something to truly be ashamed of.

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