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NNadir

(34,664 posts)
Sun Feb 18, 2024, 09:46 AM Feb 2024

OK. I finally did it. I watched 15 minutes of "Jersey Shore."

My son (genetically approximately 1/4 of his genes are of Italian origin) has a new girlfriend, a fellow nuclear engineering graduate student. On learning that he's from New Jersey, where she's never been, she asked if it's really like "Jersey Shore."

We never saw the show, so I rented it, and watched 15 minutes of the first episode with my wife (who grew up on Staten Island).

We laughed a bit, then turned it off.

It was apparently about being proud of being a "Guido," or a "Guidette," body building, considering one's self as incredibly sexy, and drinking. The show is about being young, clueless Americans of Italian extraction who happen to congregate in New Jersey.

Of course, when I was growing up on Long Island, I thought of New Jersey as some kind of hellhole, an opinion I continued to hold when I lived in California, until I moved here.

We were embarrassed because we actually brought our kids to Seaside Heights for family vacations. Trust me, it wasn't like that.

I suppose somewhere in this state there is this kind of reality, but no, that's not us.

New Jersey is a kind of heaven. It takes a while to realize this, but it's true.





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OK. I finally did it. I watched 15 minutes of "Jersey Shore." (Original Post) NNadir Feb 2024 OP
Have you ever seen "Garden State"? underpants Feb 2024 #1
I moved to the Jersey Shore 2 years ago. bamagal62 Feb 2024 #2
I traveled to South Jersey many years ago many times to do audits and train others. twodogsbarking Feb 2024 #3
I came to NJ from NYC for my husband's job 45 years ago Mossfern Feb 2024 #4
No "reality" show is ever "real." bernieb Feb 2024 #5
how odd NJCher Feb 2024 #6
Well, I would make several points to explain my attitude. NNadir Mar 2024 #7

underpants

(186,651 posts)
1. Have you ever seen "Garden State"?
Sun Feb 18, 2024, 09:53 AM
Feb 2024

A quirky little movie made by Zach Braff (“Scrubs”) with lots of actors you know including Natalie Portman. Zach got lower music rights rates from friends and the soundtrack is outstanding.

bamagal62

(3,650 posts)
2. I moved to the Jersey Shore 2 years ago.
Sun Feb 18, 2024, 10:09 AM
Feb 2024

I’ve never watched the series. I’m not sure if I want to. The jersey shore is beautiful and I agree, (in many areas) NJ is a little slice of heaven. There is a reason it’s called the garden state!

twodogsbarking

(12,228 posts)
3. I traveled to South Jersey many years ago many times to do audits and train others.
Sun Feb 18, 2024, 10:27 AM
Feb 2024

Lots of highways but some of the nicest people ever. Thanks folks.

Mossfern

(3,180 posts)
4. I came to NJ from NYC for my husband's job 45 years ago
Sun Feb 18, 2024, 11:54 AM
Feb 2024

I was kicking and screaming because all I knew of the state was the NJ Turnpike and Elizabeth.
We live in a "bedroom community" that's an easy commute to the City.
Never knew how beautiful it was.

Since it's the most densely populated State in the Country, I think we should keep it a secret.

NJCher

(37,883 posts)
6. how odd
Wed Feb 28, 2024, 10:38 PM
Feb 2024
Of course, when I was growing up on Long Island, I thought of New Jersey as some kind of hellhole, an opinion I continued to hold when I lived in California, until I moved here.

My girlfriend who is from LI told me just the opposite. She said that her family thought of NJ as "having arrived" and they were very happy when they could afford to move to Northern NJ.

NNadir

(34,664 posts)
7. Well, I would make several points to explain my attitude.
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 04:55 PM
Mar 2024

First of all, I came of age in the 1970's and my experience of New Jersey, as it was then for many Long Islanders was to cross either the Goethels Bridge or the Outerbridge on Staten Island to the refinery zone, Elizabeth etc. This was followed by a stretch, often at night, down the Turnpike, generally on my way to Florida.

When I was a child, I would sometimes go to visit my father's cousins and my Great Aunts who lived just across the bridge in Parlin, NJ, which may as well have been Staten Island.

When I moved to California, my housemate in the LA area, was also from Long Island. We remained friends after we married and when my wife and I left California (San Diego) for New Jersey, and I left a message on the answering machines that existed in those days saying I moved to New Jersey, he left a message on my machine asking if I was working in a chemical waste dump. (I'm a chemist.) I, in turn, left a message on his machine pointing out that I lived much further from a refinery than he did. I live in the Princeton area; he lived in San Pedro, an LA suburb near the oil refining facilities in Wilmington, Lomita and Torrance.

My wife, who grew up on Staten Island (in the time that it was mostly known for its dump) cried when I got a job in New Jersey, although she agreed to go if only because the opportunity was too good to pass up. She couldn't believe we'd leave California for New Jersey. (Now she would definitely refuse to move to California for any reason.)

I would suggest that your friend may have had a negative opinion of New Jersey at some point since she said it "arrived."

Actually, it didn't "arrive;" it's always been a slice of heaven, a high culture, high tech center, with a deep connection to the history of this country; it's just that we Long Islanders (and in my wife's case Staten Islanders) were too provincial to notice.

It's funny. Occasionally, to visit family, I have to go to Long Island, and to be clear, I kind of feel sorry for the people who live there, a 180o change from the way I grew up.

My wife and sons make fun of me because I have a hard time sitting through movies about Long Island culture, although the movie that most reminds me of that culture is actually "The King of Staten Island." It does seem that Long Island culture (as I remember it anyway) is captured in "The Jersey Shore."

For the record, I grew up in the lower middle class on Long Island in post war tract housing and I certainly lacked in sophistication and a broad perception of the world at large. My parents were only marginally educated; neither graduated high school and in fact my father quit school before high school. Many of my friends were what we called "greasers," (Guidos in the parlance of "The Jersey Shore," although the concept extended beyond Americans of Italian heritage) for whom the way to have a decent social standing was to have a hot car. Until I was 12, I never left New York State except to go to Parlin, NJ, and I was 19 when I left New York State (except for Parlin, NJ) for the second time. I was, again, a provincial.

Here's how I felt upon leaving Long Island for the first time (for California):



I now think that people from Long Island are mildly amusing people who talk funny. I do love and have loved people who lived there, including some who remain, but it's not a culture to which I could return.

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