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davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 10:34 PM Nov 2014

Why did we lose?

Or, perhaps the question is more... why did an absolute despicable excuse for a human being like Paul LePage win? I've got some thoughts on this, and wanted to share them here.

I work for a small gas station/convenience/grocery/game station/whatever store up here in Aroostook County. Every weekend I come into contact with all kinds of people - but a large number of them are hunters. A whole lot of them were talking about coming out on election day to make sure they could keep baiting their bear - which is how the vast majority of them (that we tagged this year) were caught.

The place I work tenders to get a lot of locals, older folks, hunters, fisherman, real... hmm, outdoors types. Some of my favorite people, because they tend to be down to earth, honest - genuine. The conversations I heard about the upcoming election usually went something like this (real conversation, with language cleaned up somewhat)

Older Gentleman: Ya know... I think I'm gonna vote for LePage. What the hell has Michaud ever done anyway? Not a damn thing for veterans. On top of that, he's a... well, you know.

Younger Gentleman: Well, I don't know... been thinkin' that I'd really like to have health insurance. If we pass that medicaid expansion, I could get it.

Even Older Gentleman: The State can't afford it. You know what we're taxed at already and all that money is paying for these damned layabouts already - one of the highest tax rates in the whole Country and it's all going to welfare. What we need to do is bring more business to Maine, get more jobs, bring in more revenue... then we could get people insured.

Older Gentleman nods sagely.

Younger Gentleman: Well, maybe you're right - and he did get that money for the hospitals, didn't he? Something to do with tax money from the liquor companies...

***********

Neither of those older gentlemen worked for the state government. They weren't officially involved with the LePage campaign - but little conversations like that, all over the State, play their part in every election. Not once did any of the democrats I knew - who were often around... not once did they speak up and explain just why LePage was a bad idea - nor could I (without possibly risking my job). Many of the younger people I know tell me they don't vote because they don't know anything about the issues or the candidates... and when most of their education comes from peer pressure, or one sided conversations....

I don't think we need to control the conversation, but I think we need to take part in it. Especially in more rural, conservative areas like Aroostook County. Maine had a great voter turnout this last election... but do you know who didn't vote? Thousands of young people who simply have no clue about what their government is, what it does, who they might want to vote for and why.

In the vast majority of cases, I don't think it's because they don't care. I think it's because they don't know. Or, worse, are getting all of their information, opinions, and knowledge in general... from republicans.

With the re-election of this mockery of a man, we will have thousands of people who still can't get health insurance. We will have thousands of people removed from whatever small state aid they receive. Welfare, medicaid, Maine Care. The budget will be "balanced" upon the backs of the poorest of us. People who can't heat their homes in below zero temperatures and use their stoves to keep warm - or to keep their children warm. People who work "under the table" for less than minimum wage and earn themselves a bad back before they're thirty five. We'll balance the budget by cutting off their assistance - and denying them further assistance.

If the consensus is "everyone for themselves" what the hell is the point in government? A lot of people don't seem to understand... it is the government's JOB to make sure people are housed, fed, clothed, healthy - prosperous. Yet every election we are conned by crooks like LePage, who tell us that the way to move forward is to cut back, that the way to prosperity is through austerity, through abandoning our compassion and empathy and kneeling at the altars of our own individual bank accounts.

The cost of remaining silent, or of not getting involved enough, is simply too high. We will be paying for it for years to come.

So my thinking is... why the heck don't we have some kind of better marketed, or even known of political education/outreach program? Would it really be such a hassle to create such a thing? Just to educate people about issues, about candidates. Thousands of kids graduate high school every year who really haven't got a clue about anything political.

If they knew the stakes, they would give a damn. If they knew it might mean them, their neighbors, families, or friends not having heat in the winter, not having food on the table, not having a home... then they might understand that this game of politics is deadly serious.

This time around, I'm going to do something different. I'm going to work on starting my own little magazine or news paper about democrats in Maine, about who we are and why. About why we should actually give a damn. If I can convince just one person to get out there and vote, it will be worth it. I encourage you all... reach out, especially to younger voters. We really can't afford to have a Governor like LePage - and we will be even less able to afford it the next time around.

We lost, simply... because people didn't know - and now we're all going to pay for it.

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Why did we lose? (Original Post) davidthegnome Nov 2014 OP
he won because he reflected the values of those who voted for him nt msongs Nov 2014 #1
He won, Maine lost. davidthegnome Nov 2014 #2
I'm not a Mainer, but the following thought struck me before the election- No Vested Interest Nov 2014 #3
Dems lost because their candidates ran like sniveling cowards. NancyDL Nov 2014 #4
What Corporation's secret black boxes "record" and "count" the votes??? blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #5
It wasn't just up in the County... marcopolo63 Nov 2014 #6
+1 I agree. There were a lot of contributing factors involved here. PotatoChip Nov 2014 #7
here's a thought for u luckyleftyme2 Dec 2014 #8
What? PotatoChip Dec 2014 #9
u might want to read it again luckyleftyme2 Dec 2014 #10

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
2. He won, Maine lost.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 11:36 PM
Nov 2014

Ignorance reigns supreme. My hope is that in the years to come, we can make some change in that regard. At least to educate people regarding exactly what those "values" are. There is tremendous value in having access to health care, heating oil, food and housing. What monstrous values he must reflect that he is willing and even eager to deny those things to others.

I believe ignorance, rather than malice, is the root of the problem. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. If we can truly educate people, I believe that they will stop voting for men like LePage.

No Vested Interest

(5,202 posts)
3. I'm not a Mainer, but the following thought struck me before the election-
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 02:18 AM
Nov 2014

The nurse who returned from Africa and was home quarantined by LePage (after having endured being held in a tent by NJ's Christie)and spoke out against LePage's actions, probably elicited some support for the governor due to all the media hullabaloo and fear-mongering.
The nurse was a very smart woman and knew what she was talking about, but some would resent her defiance in speaking out.
When I observed all that going on, I thought to myself - not good for Dems (reasonable people) - good for Repubs (they market fear.)

NancyDL

(140 posts)
4. Dems lost because their candidates ran like sniveling cowards.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 04:32 AM
Nov 2014

They tried to distance themselves from the President, ignoring the MANY things that have been accomplished during his terms. They tried to look like Republicans, even though poll after poll showed that the VALUES held by the majority of Americans, are largely progressive values.

They lost because much of their traditional "base" didn't vote, which means that there wasn't much of a grass roots effort on the ground.

They lost because they ran a really crummy campaign.

marcopolo63

(68 posts)
6. It wasn't just up in the County...
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:19 PM
Nov 2014

that LePage and the Republicans saw big wins on November 4th this year. Even in southern Maine (I live in Portland) the right wing had a lot of support and energy on their side. I agree that this was in big part due to the bear-baiting referendum - that possibly drew 20,000+ voters to the polls who may not have otherwise voted. And the vast majority (almost 100% ot these typically unlikely voters) cast their ballots for LePage in addition to voting NO on the referendum.

In addition - Mike Michaud coming out as gay also turned a certain percentage of voters against him, and probably didn't gain him any new supporters he didn't already have. And there was the Independent candidacy of Eliot Cutler that also drew upwards of 5-8% of the vote away from Michaud. Then the whole Nurse Hickox / ebola issue probably did move some voters to the right - even if only tenth(s) of a percent.

All combined there was just too much going in favor of the right wing here in Maine this year. With LePage holding his 39% from the previous election - the issues dejeur got him another 9% of the electorate and a resounding reelection to a second term. I don't think any amount of education or information would have made enough of a difference to get Mike Michaud the win. Maine doesn't have electonic voting machines - although the tallying is done using an optical system - but I don't this was or has been a factor in our electoral processes. This election loss, bitter as it was - will hopefully be a one-timer and chalked up as a lesson-learned for the Maine Democrats!

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
7. +1 I agree. There were a lot of contributing factors involved here.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 03:45 PM
Nov 2014

Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts.

luckyleftyme2

(3,880 posts)
8. here's a thought for u
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 09:16 AM
Dec 2014

how did he get elected the first time? because the front runner in the primaries was sabotaged!
we all know out of staters set up a pay for vote in several states! hmmm who did the gov. have a photo opp with in his kitchen? who did he pay homage to? who went to this tax free organization after being a prominent repub member? and become their ceo? how did the long island votes get counted when their number exceeds the people that voted?
yes we will pay with our blood sweat and labor while the corrupt fill their pockets! how is the bond money being spent? the fingers in the pie from your tax dollar are dirty.

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
9. What?
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 11:46 AM
Dec 2014


I'm not sure what you are trying to say here, but you might want to go have that checked out.

luckyleftyme2

(3,880 posts)
10. u might want to read it again
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 11:02 PM
Dec 2014

5 states caught people who sabotaged the primaries
who led the tabor vote? who financed the tea party -left a high elected job to become known
as the eight million dollar man!'
hmm if your not aware your not to up on your politics!

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