NRA, others offer support to Harvey student suspended for handling BB gun during virtual class

[TexasTowelie]

The father of Ka'Mauri Harrison, the Harvey fourth-grader suspended last week after a teacher saw him move a BB gun out of the way during a virtual lesson, said the national response to the case has been "overwhelming," with offers of support from regular people and even the National Rifle Association.

In the days since news of Harrison's six-day suspension broke, the 9-year-old and his family have been swamped with messages via email and social media, some pledging legal or financial help.

"It's been overwhelming," Nyron Harrison said. Messages have been flooding in through Facebook and email, he said. "We've been getting a lot of invites to gun ranges and different gun clubs."

Messages have come in from "West Virginia, Colorado, a lot of places," he said.

Read more: https://www.nola.com/news/education/article_77d7c92e-00df-11eb-9b99-93ad4afac42b.html

[vercetti2021]

1. Disgusting

Look I understand that it was a ridiculous thing to suspend the child over a BB gun. But the NRA is a fuck off and not try to indoctrinate this child into their cult

[Throck]

2. The NRA is pretty insignificant these days.

Hard to believe they were mentioned at all. If anything the kids case was hurt. I'm thinking the ACLU should be stepping up in that this is a privacy issue.

NRA and BB guns?

[vercetti2021]

3. It's a gun..

They'd stick their nose in it if the kid had a cap gun from the 50s.

Any gun they'll get involved

[Throck]

4. It seems to be a privacy issue.

The NRA is falling apart and desperate for attention. Why the author even mentioned them has me scratching my head.

Did the NRA defend kids when they made Pop Tart guns in school?

[vercetti2021]

5. Desperation like you said

Their a dying organization.

[quickesst]

6. no matter how disgusting....

.... it is that the NRA has offered support to this kid, the responsibility falls directly on the shoulders of the school system, and the school officials who made the stupid, dumb, irrational over the top politically correct decision to suspend. If this sort of idiocy becomes the norm, then any child in possession of anything that can be even wildly misconstrued as being connected to a weapon will become a target themselves. School officials attacking a child in his own home. What's next? Breaking down doors?

[TexasTowelie]

7. I think that it is a stretch to characterize the actions of the the school officials as an "attack".

I can understand that the school officials may have been over-zealous with the interpretation of its rules and expanding their definition of "campus" to include the homes of the students. However, if the home videos also showed that the homes contain illegal drugs then the school officials do have a duty to act because issues of child endangerment arise. I would contend that letting a nine-year-old have direct access to a BB gun does fall under child endangerment provisions. Having that video available so that other students can see it might also influence the other students that it was okay for each of them to attend their virtual classes with weapons that are worse than a BB gun.

I think the school officials made an appropriate response with a four-day suspension. The parents may also learn a valuable lesson from the experience. The family relinquishes a portion of their privacy rights when they allow video of the "virtual classroom" to be displayed to the school officials and other students voluntarily.

[Throck]

8. Was is a BB gun or Airsoft?

Cap gun?

Some school administrators over react. Did the media report accurately?

I'm still laughing at the NRA sticking their nose in there.

[TexasTowelie]

9. I'm going with the reporting in the article which says BB gun.

A BB gun would not be allowed on campus. We already have had some articles about students displaying porn in the virtual classrooms. I consider the virtual classrooms as an extension of the classroom. I know that as a student we still have to observe the school guidelines when we were on school trips off campus for extracurricular activities.

Can't comment on the media report, but it does appear to be from a reliable source. However, if you want to question the accuracy of any media report then you are welcome to do so.

[Throck]

10. I'm no virgin but am very well mannered around virtual meetings.

https://www.moms.com/florida-parents-high-during-kids-virtual-classes-being-inappropriate/

Kinda funny but kinda sad. At least I hide my liquor in a coffee cup.

[TexasTowelie]

11. Parents setting wonderful examples for their children.

Yes, it is sad. I don't blame the nine-year-old as much as I blame the parents. It's a what-the-hell are they thinking situation.

[quickesst]

12. I'll bite....

If there are parents who are stupid enough to have drugs on display in their child's bedroom during virtual class, then of course the school has a duty to report it, but the deflection from a BB gun to drugs will not work simply for the fact that BB guns can probably be found in a few million homes of 8, 9, and 10 year old children, and unlike the drugs, the BB guns are 100% legal, and in possession of their owners inside of their own homes. A simple alert to the parents would have sufficed. I doubt it would ever have happened again, and a child would not have missed out on four days of education, and the stigma of being suspended. Apples to oranges.🤔

[TexasTowelie]

13. Well, it is completely legal to walk around one's home completely nude,

but if that person stands at the window completely nude or in front of a camera that is part of virtual classroom, then most likely that person will be charged with indecent exposure. Privacy rights do have limits. I won't be surprised if some new laws will be adopted if virtual learning is going to remain in effect.

I suspect that if this incident was in an actual classroom setting the student would either be expelled, suspended, or sent to detention for handling a weapon and the entire campus would be placed on lockdown. Since virtual detention rooms don't exist, the school officials went to the next level of discipline that was available to them.

I place a lot of blame on the parents in this situation for not informing their son not to display a weapon while on an open camera, but unfortunately the school officials have no power to discipline adults. If the virtual classroom is considered to be an extension of the campus, then it means that the campus rules must be followed.

Another consideration is what effect that this incident has over the remainder of the students in that class. If they know that the student isn't going to be held accountable, then the bad apples in the class will push the boundaries even further. Having the incident boil down to the school officials talk to the parents gives the student a free pass which sets a poor example for the classmates. Learning responsibility for inappropriate behavior is more important than the classroom lessons missed or the stigma associated with the suspension.

[quickesst]

14. most of what you wrote....

.... in my opinion is not worth responding to, but I'll give it a shot. The first thing I have to say, is why do you people insist on comparing an illegal act to a child with a BB gun in his own home which is completely 100% legal? If you can't do any better than that why the hell are you even trying? At least it's not as lame as the last person who tried to compare drugs in the open to a kid with a legallly owned BB gun. One thing I will say concerns the assumption that this kid would bring any type of gun to an actual classroom just because he happens to own a BB gun that is in his own home, and is seen moving it by a school teacher blocks or even miles away. Since you take it upon yourself to lay part of the blame on the parents, and I'm sure you can count a few million other 8 9 and 10 year old boys who own BB guns with their parents permission, then I assume you believe all of those parents are somehow being negligent in their parental duties. That would include my own parents.

Your entire post is worthy of taking its place in the dictionary under the word "reaching".

Your last paragraph alone would fit perfectly under the word assumption spelled with capital letters.

[TexasTowelie]

15. I guess that we will have to agree to disagree on this topic.

I do hope that the student learns something from this incident and doesn't display a weapon again online. However, I could also see that the student might take away the lesson that if he does display a weapon online, then he might get away with not having to sit in front of the computer learning anything and he will have more time to play video games.

While you are also admonishing me and dragging out the dictionary, you might flip a few pages to the word "responsibility" and then back to the front to look up the word "discipline". This isn't a matter of whether something is legal or illegal. It is about learning that actions have consequences and having a parent-teacher conference means that the student won't learn anything, particularly if the parents don't even bother to discuss the incident with their son afterwards.

Missing four days of classroom instruction is easily overcome--I know because I missed 18 days of classroom instruction when I had the chicken pox in third grade and there was no virtual learning. My grades the following six weeks were all A's and B's so it certainly wasn't devastating.

[quickesst]

16. "I guess that we will have to agree to disagree on this topic".

Good answer. I'll go along with that since my reply has already been expressed in previous posts. I see no reason to change nor expound any further.