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It's June and I'm sad to say my original question still stands for the most part (see block quote below).
Rev. Schlingensiepen seems like he may be able to make the 2nd district race at least somewhat interesting. Although, frankly, it is too late for any congressional candidate to start now and be successful barring some kind of miracle. Hopefully, the good reverend can arrange for one.
Of course, there's no candidate for the 1st which is more understandable since the likelihood of Dems ever winning in the first is exceptionally low.
However, there is absolutely no excuse for not already having credible candidates in the 3rd and 4th districts! This is embarrassing and, in my view, shows a failure of leadership. We can't blame redistricting because everyone knows that Johnson County will be in the 3rd and Wichita will be in the 4th.
I know there were some potential congressional candidates who had some unfavorable interactions with the new KDP leadership and subsequently elected not to run. I also know that some Dems in the 3rd were in the "we must have Joe Reardon" camp and when it became clear that Joe didn't want to run they failed to turn their attention to others who might be credible candidates.
My opinion is that Democrats need to stop behaving like marginally attractive men who think they should be dating a supermodel. These types can be with a woman who is much better than they should get based on what they have to offer, but they'll be constantly looking to better deal her and refusing to invest in the relationship. Guess what happens - they end up alone.
Similarly, the lesson here is that if reasonably credible candidates express an interest in running, don't treat them like crap just because they aren't your ideal "savior" candidate. Because - guess what - your ideal choice may not be interested. We don't need this type of dysfunction as the underdog party in the state.
It will be a real shame if Pompeo and Yoder can just sit on their cash for another election cycle as this will make them exponentially harder to beat in 2014.
Here we are approaching late February in an election year and we have no announced candidates for any of the congressional districts. We need to identify some excellent candidates and get going or we are practically handing the seats to the Republicans for another term.
Here are some folks that I think would be excellent possibilities for each of the four districts:
1st district - Dennis McKinney (former State Treasurer and State Rep.) from Greensburg. He is a Western KS guy through and through but a solid, common sense Democrat. He's the kind of guy that could get voters to cross party lines which is essential in the 1st district.
2nd district - Steve Boyda (former Congresswoman Nancy Boyda's husband and Topeka area attorney) could be a good choice. He's a likable guy and would have some name recognition. However, my top choice would be Josh Svaty (former Sec. of Agriculture). Very charismatic, articulate, young man who could do very well against Jenkins in a debate. I think he could be very compelling as a candidate.
3rd district - Joe Reardon has some good credentials and accomplishments to brandish but all indications are that he doesn't want to run for Congress. Other possibilities include 2010 candidate Stephene Moore (but she may not want to pursue this given Dennis' recent diagnosis), 2010 Senate candidate Lisa Johnston, and wildcard Sean Tevis who ran in the 2nd district in 2010.
4th district - Raj Goyle could give it another go (unless he has officially moved to NY). He was a great fundraiser but probably needs a little help coming across as more authentic and not so rehearsed. Lee Kinch (KDP Vice Chair from Derby) could also be a compelling figure if he was interested in taking on the campaign.
What do you all think? Who would you like to see running in the districts?
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)McKinney is anti-choice. I know that plays well in the 1st district but it's a deal breaker for me and many women. So I would not send him any money.
I'd love to see Joe Reardon run. He's an outstanding mayor.
I'm also frustrated about the lack of Dem candidates at the state level. There's no excuse for that. I'll be interested to hear what they have to say this weekend at Washington Days.
msongs
(70,170 posts)progsrock
(26 posts)I know no one at the national level is going to be throwing much money at Kansas. We're not a swing state and only two of our four congressional districts could be considered competitive (some people say only one).
However, I don't think that means we should just shrug our shoulders and do little to nothing as a state. Nothing can change without consistent effort and investment.
2012 could be a much better year for Dems even in Kansas. The President's numbers are climbing, the economy is improving, and more and more people are getting disgusted with Sam Brownback (including more reasonable Republicans).
We have some opportunity but we need to get moving to take advantage of it and to win as many seats as we can.
progsrock
(26 posts)Hey folks - chime in with your thoughts about who should run. I see a lot of folks viewing the thread but not too many responses.
I would love to hear if anyone has additional suggestions for who they would like to see running or if you have favorites that I mentioned in my initial list.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)Steve Boyda can decide for himself if he wants to run, can't he?
Some of it depends on where the district is. If the Senate CD map stands, I'd like to see Paul Davis run for it. Ed Quick didn't like the idea of Davis giving up his legislative seat, but that seat should stay a D, and I give Davis good odds for a victory - in 2014.
I think only Boyda has a chance in 2012, especially now, this late in the game. Boyda has the name, probably has the rolodex of donors and many people in the 2nd district have buyer's remorse over the loss of Nancy Boyda. But 2008 showed that it will be uphill for anybody. Boyda lost by 13,000 votes, but Obama lost by something like 20,000 votes. Whoever runs needs to get some 20,000+ Republicans to vote for them.
According to Wiki, Svaty lives in Ellsworth - not in the 2nd district.
Anyway, nice of you to mention Tevis, but not me.
Okay, I do have the charisma of a dead fish, but I also got twice as many votes as Tevis. Give me $100,000 and I will beat Jenkins - in 2014. That presumes, of course, that Leavenworth is still in the district, something which is still up in the air.
As for the 1st. I think that is a lost cause. I love McKinney. I think he is one of KDP's best, but, to consider but one example In the Treasurer's race where he was an incumbent, he lost Ford County (Dodge City) by 2747 to 3434. I'd rather see him win back his house seat and then maybe try for the State Senate.
I might note, in passing, that we seem to already have two candidates Scott Barnhart in the 2nd and George York in the 3rd. At least they have filed, although Barnart's website is even lamer than mine.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)Never heard of him.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)he does not show up on a google search at all.
progsrock
(26 posts)hfojvt - didn't mean to offend or exclude you but I mentioned Tevis in the context of the 3rd district (which is where he should have run last time since that's where he lives) but also added the adjective *wildcard* since he might be able to stir some interest/controversy but you don't know what you would get with him. As I understand it, he had a non-campaign campaign the last time.
Although Josh Svaty is from out west, I believe he stayed in Topeka. At least white pages and votebuilder have him listed at a Topeka address.
Regarding our supposed "candidates", here's what I know:
The person declared in the 2nd, Scott Barnhart, is not a real Democrat. He ran in the Republican primary in Kansas House District 10 (Baldwin City area) in 2010 but has now mysteriously become a Democrat. He's a decoy or a plant.
The person in the 3rd district is a mystery. No one I've talked to in JoCo Dems knows who he is. I know from a people search he's 80 years old and lives in OP. Seems like he may be a decoy or plant as well.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)who beat Leroy Jones in the Senate primary in, what was, it 2004?
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)the Polysci guy here figured that he beat Jones because he was ahead of him on the ballot, because he was ahead of him in the alphabet. But I think he was wrong about how ballot placement works. It's either random, or evenly divided somehow.
By this point it seems that York has withdrawn or war rejected as we have no candidate for the 3rd district. That's really sad because that is a district where we should be competetive, at least with a conservadem candidate.
beyurslf
(6,755 posts)I do think it would be easier in a non-Presidential year of they had good GOTV.
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