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ellisonz

(27,739 posts)
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:17 PM Apr 2012

Dog the Bounty Hunter, Wife Lobby Against Hawaii Justice Reform Initiative

By Chad Blair 04/25/2012

Duane "Dog" Chapman and Beth Chapman and their massive blond manes were hard to miss Tuesday afternoon at the state Capitol.

The stars of A&E's "Dog the Bounty Hunter" reality series were not visiting Hawaii legislators to look for fugitives from justice.

Rather, the Chapmans were seeking to derail the Abercrombie administration's "Justice Reinvestment" initiative, a data-driven approach to reforming Hawaii's criminal justice system, which would include freeing up prison space.

The Chapmans testified against Senate Bill 2776, the major Justice Reinvestment legislation before lawmakers.

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Dog the Bounty Hunter, Wife Lobby Against Hawaii Justice Reform Initiative (Original Post) ellisonz Apr 2012 OP
Dog and his hooch are pure scum Dawson Leery Apr 2012 #1
They Meiko Apr 2012 #2
Dog and his gang like to think they are counselors..... MindMover Apr 2012 #3
In fairness ellisonz Apr 2012 #4
In reality.... MindMover Apr 2012 #5
The point is that Hawaii is a bit different. ellisonz Apr 2012 #6
I guess spontaneous remission would be classified as well as 12 step MindMover Apr 2012 #7
I have never Meiko Apr 2012 #8
They have gotten better about editing out flagrant violations of the law ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #10
If Fabio and Hulk Hogan could ever produce a child customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #9

Dawson Leery

(19,368 posts)
1. Dog and his hooch are pure scum
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:28 PM
Apr 2012

From the article: "The Chapmans acknowledged to Civil Beat that passage of SB 2776 would negatively impact their business."

It seems their opposition to this bill is that is hurts their bottom line.

Dwayne should never have been let our jail.

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
3. Dog and his gang like to think they are counselors.....
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:46 PM
Apr 2012

Like talking to a guy who you just ran after, roughed up and sometimes beat up and then cuffed, with dog and his dolly parton look alike wife talking smack about ice and the effects drugs had in their lives is supposed to be helpful.....

Looks like Hawaii like other states are finally looking to get real professional help for these addicts, not some overpaid, overweight, out of shape, narcissistic bounty hunters running down bond jumpers.....

ellisonz

(27,739 posts)
4. In fairness
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:49 PM
Apr 2012

Hawaii has a slightly different culture than much of the rest of the United States. We have the highest number of multi-generation households - family bond and shame run strong.

And fuck ice...No ice in paradise brah.

Also, the professional help is decidedly 12-Step for the most part, and that doesn't exactly work either. I've seen it myself. Their approach isn't totally far off, but they haven't handled fame well.

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
5. In reality....
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:58 PM
Apr 2012

I know a little somethin bout Hawaii since my daughter and family live on one of the most beautiful of these famous islands....

and your point about multi generational households is true....with family bonding being strong....so...

Ice is everywhere and especially in Hawaii....

and if you know of a program that has done more for addicts than 12 step....then tell me....I am all ears....

and handling fame, oh they have done a pretty good job of that.....

ellisonz

(27,739 posts)
6. The point is that Hawaii is a bit different.
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 12:08 AM
Apr 2012

I don't think their schtick works so well on the Mainland. But it does in Hawaii, where despite having made fools of themselves occasionally, they remain "local heroes" to many (check the comments to the article).

I have two relatives who have been ice heads and they went clean without 12 step. 12 step has a very low success rate. People change because they want to change. Into what is the question...

I find their "hey wake the fuck up speech" to be just as effective as 12 step

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
7. I guess spontaneous remission would be classified as well as 12 step
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 12:24 AM
Apr 2012

or "hey wake the up speech" as being effective......

because you are absolutely correct that people change only when they want to change....

no matter what the program....

and thank your relatives for getting clean and staying clean.....



 

Meiko

(1,076 posts)
8. I have never
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 02:34 AM
Apr 2012

heard of them beating anyone up. It is funny to watch them "suit up" pepper spray cans and paint ball guns. I have often wondered what would happen if they came up against an armed fugitive who just wasn't going to be arrested. I suppose all of that is decided before hand huh.....

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
10. They have gotten better about editing out flagrant violations of the law
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 08:27 AM
Apr 2012

including breaking and entering and assault that they commit.

Their business is the TV show, not bonds at this point, and no one I know takes them seriously.

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