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mahatmakanejeeves

(60,924 posts)
Sun Aug 25, 2024, 07:55 PM Aug 25

'Like a bomb': Exploding tire that killed L.A. County firefighter was a little-known risk

'Like a bomb': Exploding tire that killed L.A. County firefighter was a little-known risk

Rebecca Ellis
Sat, August 24, 2024 at 6:00 AM EDT
5 min read

No one knew the burning construction vehicle could become a bomb. … Not the driver who tried to douse it with an extinguisher. Not the workers who sent water gushing onto the engine. And not Andrew Pontious, an L.A. County firefighter dispatched to the Palmdale quarry on June 14.

Pontious had sprayed water near the vehicle for about two minutes when one of its nearly 7-foot tires exploded, according to a Fire Department analysis completed this month. … Hunks of rubber and steel shot the length of a football field. Pontious, 53, died instantly.

“It was like an IED,” David Pontious, Andrew’s brother who worked at the same Palmdale fire station before retiring this spring, said, referring to an improvised explosive device, as a roadside bomb in a war zone is known.

It’s common for tires to blow out in a fire, with pressure building until the air whooshes out with a loud pop. … But, sometimes, the tire doesn’t blow — it explodes. The air inside the tire combines with the heat, starting a chemical reaction powerful enough to create a violent shock wave. The larger the tire, the bigger the blast.

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'Like a bomb': Exploding tire that killed L.A. County firefighter was a little-known risk (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Aug 25 OP
Stored energy sources are many times unrecognized.. yourout Aug 25 #1
Springs, things under tension Jerry2144 Aug 25 #2
Propane tanks in wildfires. nt PufPuf23 Aug 25 #4
Simple fix for those fighting fires on such equipment: ret5hd Aug 25 #3
Deflate tires at the valve for the most controlled release. CoopersDad Aug 26 #6
you gonna go up there and push that little stem in... ret5hd Aug 26 #7
I would hope to take out the valve stem with a rifle shot. CoopersDad Aug 26 #8
I remember this. BlueWaveNeverEnd Aug 25 #5
Study: "Exploring the chemical aspects of truck tire blowouts and explosions" sl8 Aug 26 #9

yourout

(8,062 posts)
1. Stored energy sources are many times unrecognized..
Sun Aug 25, 2024, 08:22 PM
Aug 25

Points of danger.
Capacitors. Hydraulic accumulators. Compressed air storage.

ret5hd

(21,320 posts)
3. Simple fix for those fighting fires on such equipment:
Sun Aug 25, 2024, 08:42 PM
Aug 25

Puncture the tires first: sharp rod, bullet, I dunno...just release the pressure.

CoopersDad

(2,865 posts)
6. Deflate tires at the valve for the most controlled release.
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 02:44 PM
Aug 26

Piercing the tire could lead to too rapid a release, aka and explosion.

But yeah, don't let them sit there and burn!

sl8

(16,245 posts)
9. Study: "Exploring the chemical aspects of truck tire blowouts and explosions"
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 03:44 PM
Aug 26
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ssci.2007.10.004


Abstract

Truck tire blowouts and explosions, which account for a non-negligible number of occupational accidents with severe outcomes particularly in the transportation industry, are the subject of a literature review aimed at identifying the different processes involved, with a special focus on the chemical aspects of the phenomena. Tire blowouts and explosions associated with heat input are the result of the contribution of the thermal expansion of the air inside the tire, the thermal weakening of the tire structure, and three potential chemical reactions, namely pyrolysis, thermo-oxidation and combustion, leading to the degradation of the tire polymer matrix. Tire pressure and air temperature data recorded during a torch-induced tire explosion experiment were analyzed and show a sharp transition at 97 °C between an initial pure thermal air expansion regime and a second regime, also linear and attributed to a combination of air expansion and reactions of thermo-chemical degradation of the tire materials. The findings also highlight the difficulties that are encountered when trying to devise preventive and corrective measures against tire blowouts and explosions.

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