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ThoughtCriminal

(14,289 posts)
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 08:01 PM Oct 2020

Why do Arizona General Election mail-in ballot envelopes identify my Party?

On the OUTSIDE of the envelope for a GENERAL election, it identifies my party registration. It is visible to anyone that handles the ballots.

I understand how these ballots are handled AFTER they arrive at the recorder's office. But I feel that for a general election there should be NOTHING on the outside of the envelope that identifies the party preference of the voter. I don't understand why Arizona does this.

Another reason I take my ballot directly to our County Recorder's office.

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Why do Arizona General Election mail-in ballot envelopes identify my Party? (Original Post) ThoughtCriminal Oct 2020 OP
That shouldn't happen. It's just inviting election fraud. brush Oct 2020 #1
That's not the case in Pima County. Where are you? Ptah Oct 2020 #2
Gila County ThoughtCriminal Oct 2020 #3
This is the case with my ballot envelope too. I'm in the same county, district #4. Mike 03 Oct 2020 #4
My best guess ThoughtCriminal Oct 2020 #6
Thank you. I think you're correct. My party affiliation has been on the exterior of the envelope Mike 03 Oct 2020 #8
Checking your Arizona ballot by mail status ThoughtCriminal Oct 2020 #9
Thank you for this. Mike 03 Oct 2020 #10
Thank you for the link! liberalla Oct 2020 #11
I am in Maricopa ChazII Oct 2020 #5
Same here... AZ8theist Oct 2020 #7

Mike 03

(16,800 posts)
4. This is the case with my ballot envelope too. I'm in the same county, district #4.
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 06:35 AM
Oct 2020

I'll keep an eye on this thread and see what the advice is as to what to do. I'm not far from a Recorder's Office, so maybe I should take it there.

Thanks for posting this.

One thing I'll do is drop an email to the editor of my local newspaper and ask them if they can explain why this is the case.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,289 posts)
6. My best guess
Sun Oct 11, 2020, 03:16 PM
Oct 2020

Is that Gila county is using the same output to print the envelopes for the primaries and they are not unchecking a box when printing the general election ballot. I note that at the bottom shows "Ballot Requested: DEM Reg Party: DEM"




Mike 03

(16,800 posts)
8. Thank you. I think you're correct. My party affiliation has been on the exterior of the envelope
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 07:28 AM
Oct 2020

in prior general elections. But with the stakes so high, and divisions so pronounced, it worries me more this year.

My thinking at this point is that I'm leaning towards mailing it normally. If I go down to my local registrar's office, I actually have no idea who I'm handing my ballot to. It's a small office in a small town in a deeply red area. I really don't want my ballot to stand out in any way, shape or form, or to give a single unsupervised person time alone with my ballot. I want it to be in a big pile with other ballots and other mail where more than one person is present so the likelihood of anything happening to it is remote. I'm not going to, as some people have suggested, put a bunch of stamps on it (our ballots are postage-paid). I just want it to look like every other ballot and for it to work its way through the process.

Also, I have a really good relationship with my mail carrier and know he wouldn't do anything to my ballot.

I know that sounds a little paranoid and maybe counter-intuitive.

If there are flaws in my thinking, I want people to point it out. But for now, I think I'll go with regular mail. Our mail hasn't been slowed down and if I mail it Tuesday or Wednesday, it should have plenty of time to get where it needs to go.



Mike 03

(16,800 posts)
10. Thank you for this.
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 04:27 AM
Oct 2020

I'll also pass this information on to family members in this area.



Just for the heck of it, I contacted an AP reporter named Jude Joffe-Block, located in Phoenix, who has written about this question of identifying information on ballot envelopes, but haven't heard back yet. I generally don't expect responses from people I don't know, but this is such a pertinent question and I thought she might have insight. But I think the answer is probably the one you proposed above, and probably not nefarious. Thanks again for starting this conversation.

AZ8theist

(6,491 posts)
7. Same here...
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 05:18 AM
Oct 2020

I live in Mesa. There is NO party identification anywhere on the ballot or on the envelope.

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