Arizona
Related: About this forumI am sickened and ashamed
To be American now. I am in my 80's, served in our military, never missed an election, never arrested, always paid my debts, have a 800 + credit score, held a top secret clearance with DOD and I am sick at what we have become with trump. He is a liar and coward and why people support the bastard is beyond me. I am glad I am closer to the crypt than the crib now. I pity my Great and great great grand-kids.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,202 posts)PNW-Dem
(244 posts)AZ:
I hope you are who you say you are. If so, thank you for your service. However, you are saying exactly what the Corporate powers want. They want to demoralize us. I, for one, refuse to give up!
Bradshaw3
(7,926 posts)And here's to you outliving the POtuS!
Potass!
Doodley
(10,078 posts)the other way.
Kajun Gal
(1,907 posts)what "we" have become. The majority of normal, wholesome Americans do not back this man. Have faith in the young millenials. At age 61 myself, I do. At age 90, my mother does. The only ones who back this so called man are few and far between. Have faith.
Doodley
(10,078 posts)pazzyanne
(6,586 posts)RVN VET71
(2,758 posts)who blindly, stupidly, meanly and cruelly support the bastard. Not a majority of us, of course, but enough to leave me feeling really sad and disturbed about the country and where it's headed. Worse, what Trump lacks in numbers he makes up for in corrupt GOP vote stealers and repressors.
I'm preparing myself for the worst, but hoping there are enough Blue voters to overcome the disadvantages wrought by GOP repression. If we can take back the House, that's a great start. But the Senate is going to be a lot tougher. And the State legislatures and governorships harder still. But if the Blue Wave doesn't come ashore in November, it may well be over for the USA.
Kajun Gal
(1,907 posts)voted for him because they were voting AGAINST Hillary, which I do understand but I knew better. Sometimes, most times, you have to base your vote on the lesser of two evils and a lot of people really didn't know Trump's history from the 70s and 80s. I think they see it now, the things some of us old folk already knew. So hopefully the blue wave will come to pass! Always gotta have hope!
RVN VET71
(2,758 posts)would choose another person if Trump were running in 2018. But they won't be voting for Trump, they'll be voting for the bastards who kissed his butt so he'd endorse them for the House or Senate.
I honestly don't think the fabric of union will hold if we have to wait until 2020 to throw the garbage out. And I'm very concerned that the Duncan Hunters and the Marsha Blackburns and Ted Cruzes are going to win and stifle the Blue Wave.
There is hope, though. If the millions of people who see Trump and the GOP for what it is turn out at the polls, we just might pull off a historic victory. If.
whathehell
(29,601 posts)saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)I started reading with dread, then delight to discover another desert treasure. May those who love rumpie stick with plans to retire in Florida, we have exceeded our quota.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)His take is he just has to stick around now to see what happens when it all turns around the other way. No way he is missing the fall of this plague .
Thank you for being a role model, a great citizen , and for your service .
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)PandoraAwakened
(905 posts)I'm counting on the Millenials and Gen Z to right this ship. Take heart, there are many speaking truth to power now.
For a deep dive into tRump's visit here, see my article "Inside Skinny on What Trump's Friday Visit to Mesa, AZ is REALLY All About" at https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211292644
peacebuzzard
(5,223 posts)I am in deep red territory and there were more in the voting line I have ever seen before.
I was relieved to see quite a few smart looking females in line, they looked very much like part of the womens group to me. I love ❤️ that! I am in Tennessee....
Kajun Gal
(1,907 posts)peacebuzzard
(5,223 posts)Years ago, DU offered the opportunity to change login names, but I have kept the same name since day 1.
So, did Kajun Gal immigrate to Arizona?
Kajun Gal
(1,907 posts)KentuckyWoman
(6,845 posts)My Grand nieces probably qualify for one of all of the "Gens". Between 20 and 40 every one of them are engaged and active in the process. Progressives the whole lot of them. Yes they are often glued to the screens and yes I get frustrated when Happy Birthday is a text but I've come to accept those quirks and accept how people interact changes over time.
The significant others they have picked out are pretty first rate as well.
I have a lot of hope for the future of this country.
peacebuzzard
(5,223 posts)The voting line in Knoxville, Knox County surpassed the 2016 early voting and I saw for the first time many young voters and a noticeable unRepublican crop of women voters.
In this area, Republican women are ultra conservatively dressed and are mostly blonde/pale. Almost as if they go to church every day.
This voter line had many dark tones and tattoos, blue hair, green hair, torn jeans, relaxed clothing etc. It was definitely an under 30 crowd, hope this trend continues
peacebuzzard
(5,223 posts)Is being looted and torn apart by these greedy despicable treasonous bastards.
The hate they have towards anyone not like them or enabling their agenda is demonic.
At this moment we truly are lost, and so dependent on a turning tide in November.
Welcome to DU Jim, you have company here.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)It may not make a difference in the election but you will feel better
agree. many are out here, and it takes a while to get together, even on a seemingly small issue.
that may be the difference, that we are looking for a coherent (if not comprehensive) answer that just isn't possible in a complex and changing environment.
remember that age and guile will defeat youth and enthusiasm; at least over the long haul.
renate
(13,776 posts)I respectfully disagree that age and guile defeat enthusiasm over the long haul--at least, not always. But it does feel pretty universally true sometimes.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Thank you, FOG and welcome to DU. You have found us and we are all the better for it.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)gopiscrap
(24,113 posts)calimary
(83,750 posts)I feel your pain, my friend.
It used to make me so sad when President Obama would repeatedly refer to the darker depths of the American psyche, the resentniks of the far right who want this to be a whites-only country, who resent the empowerment of women, people of color, and gays, and he'd insist in speeches that "that's not who we are."
I remember realizing that, in my mind, the immediate reaction was - "No. Wrong. That's EXACTLY who we are." I remember how sad that made me feel.
I've said before that the high I felt on the night of his election to his first term - how I was so sure this was the confirmation that America had finally gotten over itself in the racial thing. That we'd FINALLY grown up about it, and turned the page. I was so hopeful. That was such a wonderful golden night. So full of promise and a new tomorrow that would be better and more just for EVERYBODY.
MAN was I wrong. All the rise of Barack Obama really succeeded in doing was to rip the scab off the wound that had kept covered all the deep-down hot roiling toxins of racism, misogyny, and homophobia thoroughly infecting the American body politic. Stuff we haven't gotten over, or beyond. Stuff that still infects and infests us. I thought this meant we were over all that. And I dared to look forward to breaking that NEXT glass ceiling (now that we'd done away with this one) and put a woman in the Oval Office, too. It'd be a one-two punch, DOING AWAY with all that old corrosive shit. We'd prove to all the world - AND to ourselves - that this was a new dawn, of a new era, in a new world, where ANYBODY could get ahead - indeed, all the way to the White House - in this uniquely remarkable country. Where ANYBODY can make it, regardless of their social standing, the size of their bank account (or lack thereof), where they lived, their skin color, their gender, or their sexual orientation. This was truly a magic place, this country. The shining city on a hill that made us the envy AND the inspiration AND the HOPE of the world.
MAN was I wrong.
Kajun Gal
(1,907 posts)and he is touching the young, the older, and the ones who KNOW that race does not matter. The Progressives! Never give up. Never!
47of74
(18,470 posts)He should have told them to go fornicate themselves instead of trying all this reaching across the aisle stuff. President Obama should have realized on day one that the Republicans would never work with him and do their damnedest to punish him and the country for having a black man as President and struck back hard against every last one of their slights and insults.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,165 posts)Stuart G
(38,726 posts)..Who knew things would turn around with a bright New York disabled man?.. Who would have bet on that one?
..And his wife was brilliant too....A great leader in her own way...so no one knows...It could go bad, or it could go good. There are many young strong leaders who are ready to take the lead. We will see. Beto is one, just to name one..You can name more...Name the ones who give us the most ...HOPE...
George II
(67,782 posts)Jimmy Carter after the corrupt Nixon/Agnew administration
Bill Clinton after 12 years of Reagan/Bush
Barack Obama after the bush administration
We're going to regain some control in January, hopefully enough to keep the train from running off the rails, and then we have a half dozen or more bright young men and women just itching to turn this country around in two years. I hope it's not too late.
Stuart G
(38,726 posts)And January is just 3 months away..about 90 days.....I would like to say, and this is the truth, I never thought that Obama had a chance. Even as his campaign got stronger and stronger. A bright, Afro-American from Illinois, a senator, but not well known. What kind of chance does he have?...As someone said
........Anything goes...and anything does....
True Blue American
(18,117 posts)We elect Democrats to clean up Republican messes then elect another Republican..
A terriblecycle since 1930 and probably before that. The exception was Teddy Roosevelt and Dwight Eisenhower. And he gave us Tricky Dick.
dameatball
(7,556 posts)pnwmom
(109,414 posts)accomplished during your life.
I hope there are many more like you in your age group -- and that they will be voting. Do you have any impression about that?
I haven't posted here in years, but I agree completely.
They_Live
(3,293 posts)a Criminal.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,202 posts)THAT could take quite a while
whathehell
(29,601 posts)and that's about two weeks.
Martin Eden
(13,316 posts)Me too.
What's most disturbing is not Trump himself, but his 40% support.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)yuiyoshida
(42,450 posts)and part of the Senate... This Monster Could fulfill his suggestion of being PRESIDENT for life, under a DO NOTHING REPUBLICAN majority, and Democracy will cease to be...at least for a long, long while.
usaf-vet
(6,730 posts)I too can't believe the extent of corruption this country has been lead to by one delusional greedy corrupt president with the help of a corrupt entire political party. The GOP is more interested in bleeding the wealth from middle class and poor citizen. Their thirst for holding power is the driving force that enables them to look the other way.
My hope is that people get out and vote in massive numbers and we manage to take back the House.
Additionally I hope that Mueller has found the proof that destroys the under pinning of the republican party.
I believe (hope) RICO charges may be possible. Let's take back what they have stolen and leave each and every co-conspirators penny less.
Susan Calvin
(2,002 posts)That there's a lot being held until after the election.
Initech
(101,387 posts)Is that Trump awakened an entire young generation of neo Nazis and white supremacists. And these people are barely of voting age. Imagine what they will be like when they are old enough to run for office.
roscoeroscoe
(1,568 posts)Keep hope alive brother!
whathehell
(29,601 posts)We, the majority of American voters, did NOT vote for Trump, nor do we support him now....He has never had majority support. I know there's a lot wrong with this country now, but I trulu believe we are less the country of half term Trump than we are of two term Obama.
Susan Calvin
(2,002 posts)But other than that we are twins. In both background and opinion.
virgogal
(10,178 posts)We all remember Tricky Dick-----this too shall pass.
KT2000
(20,766 posts)I think how glad I am that my father is not here to see this. He was a good man who believed in all those values we thought everyone else but criminals believed in too.
lapfog_1
(29,862 posts)but not just the age of Trumpism... which will pass, but mostly because we are bequeathing them an almost insurmountable problem of man made climate change coupled with a economy and food production system based almost entirely on fossil fuels.
They face an utter collapse of civilization in 50 to 100 years... many who are born today will live to see this future.
I don't see a way out for them... I hope they come up with something.
MFM008
(19,977 posts)Things WILL change, they always do.
The maggot will be labeled the WORST president in American history...
He will be like Akhenaten , removed from our history.
People will look at his voters like they are insane.
They wont admit they voted for him.
Every single thing he has done will be reversed.
Perhaps even SCOTUS judges.
There will be hope and we will see it in our lifetimes.
We may even see it in 16 days.....
mahina
(18,761 posts)I now see that voting alone is not enough.
Weve got a couple of weeks. Lets go get out the vote.
If things dont go well, theres always
https://www.aeinstein.org/nonviolentaction/198-methods-of-nonviolent-action/
198 Methods of Nonviolent Action
198 Methods of Nonviolent Action (PDF version)
198 METHODS OF NONVIOLENT ACTION
Practitioners of nonviolent struggle have an entire arsenal of nonviolent weapons at their disposal. Listed below are 198 of them, classified into three broad categories: nonviolent protest and persuasion, noncooperation (social, economic, and political), and nonviolent intervention. A description and historical examples of each can be found in volume two of The Politics of Nonviolent Action, by Gene Sharp.
THE METHODS OF NONVIOLENT PROTEST AND PERSUASION
Formal Statements
1. Public Speeches
2. Letters of opposition or support
3. Declarations by organizations and institutions
4. Signed public statements
5. Declarations of indictment and intention
6. Group or mass petitions
Communications with a Wider Audience
7. Slogans, caricatures, and symbols
8. Banners, posters, and displayed communications
9. Leaflets, pamphlets, and books
10. Newspapers and journals
11. Records, radio, and television
12. Skywriting and earthwriting
Group Representations
13. Deputations
14. Mock awards
15. Group lobbying
16. Picketing
17. Mock elections
Symbolic Public Acts
18. Displays of flags and symbolic colors
19. Wearing of symbols
20. Prayer and worship
21. Delivering symbolic objects
22. Protest disrobings
23. Destruction of own property
24. Symbolic lights
25. Displays of portraits
26. Paint as protest
27. New signs and names
28. Symbolic sounds
29. Symbolic reclamations
30. Rude gestures
Pressures on Individuals
31. Haunting officials
32. Taunting officials
33. Fraternization
34. Vigils
Drama and Music
35. Humorous skits and pranks
36. Performances of plays and music
37. Singing
Processions
38. Marches
39. Parades
40. Religious processions
41. Pilgrimages
42. Motorcades
Honoring the Dead
43. Political mourning
44. Mock funerals
45. Demonstrative funerals
46. Homage at burial places
Public Assemblies
47. Assemblies of protest or support
48. Protest meetings
49. Camouflaged meetings of protest
50. Teach-ins
Withdrawal and Renunciation
51. Walk-outs
52. Silence
53. Renouncing honors
54. Turning ones back
THE METHODS OF SOCIAL NONCOOPERATION
Ostracism of Persons
55. Social boycott
56. Selective social boycott
57. Lysistratic nonaction
58. Excommunication
59. Interdict
Noncooperation with Social Events, Customs, and Institutions
60. Suspension of social and sports activities
61. Boycott of social affairs
62. Student strike
63. Social disobedience
64. Withdrawal from social institutions
Withdrawal from the Social System
65. Stay-at-home
66. Total personal noncooperation
67. Flight of workers
68. Sanctuary
69. Collective disappearance
70. Protest emigration (hijrat)
THE METHODS OF ECONOMIC NONCOOPERATION: ECONOMIC BOYCOTTS
Actions by Consumers
71. Consumers boycott
72. Nonconsumption of boycotted goods
73. Policy of austerity
74. Rent withholding
75. Refusal to rent
76. National consumers boycott
77. International consumers boycott
Action by Workers and Producers
78. Workmens boycott
79. Producers boycott
Action by Middlemen
80. Suppliers and handlers boycott
Action by Owners and Management
81. Traders boycott
82. Refusal to let or sell property
83. Lockout
84. Refusal of industrial assistance
85. Merchants general strike
Action by Holders of Financial Resources
86. Withdrawal of bank deposits
87. Refusal to pay fees, dues, and assessments
88. Refusal to pay debts or interest
89. Severance of funds and credit
90. Revenue refusal
91. Refusal of a governments money
Action by Governments
92. Domestic embargo
93. Blacklisting of traders
94. International sellers embargo
95. International buyers embargo
96. International trade embargo
THE METHODS OF ECONOMIC NONCOOPERATION: THE STRIKE
Symbolic Strikes
97. Protest strike
98. Quickie walkout (lightning strike)
Agricultural Strikes
99. Peasant strike
100. Farm Workers strike
Strikes by Special Groups
101. Refusal of impressed labor
102. Prisoners strike
103. Craft strike
104. Professional strike
Ordinary Industrial Strikes
105. Establishment strike
106. Industry strike
107. Sympathetic strike
Restricted Strikes
108. Detailed strike
109. Bumper strike
110. Slowdown strike
111. Working-to-rule strike
112. Reporting sick (sick-in)
113. Strike by resignation
114. Limited strike
115. Selective strike
Multi-Industry Strikes
116. Generalized strike
117. General strike
Combination of Strikes and Economic Closures
118. Hartal
119. Economic shutdown
THE METHODS OF POLITICAL NONCOOPERATION
Rejection of Authority
120. Withholding or withdrawal of allegiance
121. Refusal of public support
122. Literature and speeches advocating resistance
Citizens Noncooperation with Government
123. Boycott of legislative bodies
124. Boycott of elections
125. Boycott of government employment and positions
126. Boycott of government depts., agencies, and other bodies
127. Withdrawal from government educational institutions
128. Boycott of government-supported organizations
129. Refusal of assistance to enforcement agents
130. Removal of own signs and placemarks
131. Refusal to accept appointed officials
132. Refusal to dissolve existing institutions
Citizens Alternatives to Obedience
133. Reluctant and slow compliance
134. Nonobedience in absence of direct supervision
135. Popular nonobedience
136. Disguised disobedience
137. Refusal of an assemblage or meeting to disperse
138. Sitdown
139. Noncooperation with conscription and deportation
140. Hiding, escape, and false identities
141. Civil disobedience of illegitimate laws
Action by Government Personnel
142. Selective refusal of assistance by government aides
143. Blocking of lines of command and information
144. Stalling and obstruction
145. General administrative noncooperation
146. Judicial noncooperation
147. Deliberate inefficiency and selective noncooperation by enforcement agents
148. Mutiny
Domestic Governmental Action
149. Quasi-legal evasions and delays
150. Noncooperation by constituent governmental units
International Governmental Action
151. Changes in diplomatic and other representations
152. Delay and cancellation of diplomatic events
153. Withholding of diplomatic recognition
154. Severance of diplomatic relations
155. Withdrawal from international organizations
156. Refusal of membership in international bodies
157. Expulsion from international organizations
THE METHODS OF NONVIOLENT INTERVENTION
Psychological Intervention
158. Self-exposure to the elements
159. The fast
a) Fast of moral pressure
b) Hunger strike
c) Satyagrahic fast
160. Reverse trial
161. Nonviolent harassment
Physical Intervention
162. Sit-in
163. Stand-in
164. Ride-in
165. Wade-in
166. Mill-in
167. Pray-in
168. Nonviolent raids
169. Nonviolent air raids
170. Nonviolent invasion
171. Nonviolent interjection
172. Nonviolent obstruction
173. Nonviolent occupation
Social Intervention
174. Establishing new social patterns
175. Overloading of facilities
176. Stall-in
177. Speak-in
178. Guerrilla theater
179. Alternative social institutions
180. Alternative communication system
Economic Intervention
181. Reverse strike
182. Stay-in strike
183. Nonviolent land seizure
184. Defiance of blockades
185. Politically motivated counterfeiting
186. Preclusive purchasing
187. Seizure of assets
188. Dumping
189. Selective patronage
190. Alternative markets
191. Alternative transportation systems
192. Alternative economic institutions
Political Intervention
193. Overloading of administrative systems
194. Disclosing identities of secret agents
195. Seeking imprisonment
196. Civil disobedience of neutral laws
197. Work-on without collaboration
198. Dual sovereignty and parallel government
Without doubt, a large number of additional methods have already been used but have not been classified, and a multitude of additional methods will be invented in the future that have the characteristics of the three classes of methods: nonviolent protest and persuasion, noncooperation and nonviolent intervention.
It must be clearly understood that the greatest effectiveness is possible when individual methods to be used are selected to implement the previously adopted strategy. It is necessary to know what kind of pressures are to be used before one chooses the precise forms of action that will best apply those pressures.
C_U_L8R
(45,490 posts)And he said Fabio would make a better President.
47of74
(18,470 posts)red dog 1
(28,965 posts)Why people support the bastard is beyond me too!
florida08
(4,106 posts)All those things you mention were not easy to come by and i thank you for striving to be a decent human being. Seems that is not what Americans aspire to anymore. The kind of people that put Trump in office scare me more than he does.
Ananda62
(289 posts)I just voted today - straight D of course! The line at the Galleria Mall in Henderson NV was long for the 1st day of early voting. While there were a few young faces in the line, most voters were my age (56) or older. A lot if them looked conservative (because of their garb). There were no Latinos or POC in the line (except for me). One hopeful sign is that, while checking in, I overheard an older lady tell the poll worker that she was disgusted with this Administration and was voting them out. The worker wisely said he could not comment.
I am so stressed out by this election that I cant sleep! As a female disabled veteran and a former federal attorney, I feel betrayed by this government and even considered leaving the US for good if the blue wave doesnt materialize.
lanlady
(7,175 posts)I grew up in the tri-state area (Conn.) and most of us knew decades ago that Trump was a malicious con artist. It's the reason he is so widely detested and ridiculed on his home turf. He should have been put in jail long ago and left to rot like his fellow fraudster, Bernie Maddow.
It galls me that so many of our fellow Americans still HAVE NOT FIGURED THAT OUT. Or are in denial about it. Sure, it's difficult for a lot of people to admit they've been duped (it's why whacko cults and cult leaders survive even after their prophesies, like crap about the end of the world or the Hale-bop comet, don't pan out).
But I've never seen self-deception and cultish behavior on such a mass scale in this country. It's frightening! And although I believe things will right themselves eventually, it's going to take a long while before this disgrace, this stain on our history, is purged.
benld74
(9,977 posts)I agree fully.
My kids dont fully understand
But from their questions
I can tell we are raising Democrats
geretogo
(1,281 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)And ready and willing to get him and his minions all voted out of office. We just will have to work together , and harder to win against these corrupt criminals , and oust them all from office. I have faith the real America will not let him and their corruption rule in this country , at least not for long. Justice always prevails , and truth is always the winner. Its now only a matter of time , and hard work , and they'll regret their actions when all of them become fully exposed, and they will be. Justice is coming , and why trump and them are acting so desperate now, they know they're caught now. trump has destroyed all his business future with anyone , and probably is already close to being broke and refusing to pay his creditors (russians and putin ) again, and soon will be stiffing his lawyers if he can't scam enough money from his rally funds he's generating for his own use, again. I have faith this will not last, and he'll be our dark time in American and world history when he and many others are fully exposed. if Justice loses then we will be like it is in putin's russia where only the most corrupt proper. Justice will be served, period. Just wish it were sooner.