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After the permanent DST will Arizona still be on standard time? (Original Post) Ptah Mar 2022 OP
Just pick the time you like best and stick to it. Individual freedom, america, and let chaos ring! Pobeka Mar 2022 #1
Down with the false construct of time !! Freedom from the timekeepers and clockwatchers !!! C_U_L8R Mar 2022 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #2
We are on daylight time, which is NOT the "regular" time. -nt CrispyQ Mar 2022 #4
DST now Blues Heron Mar 2022 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #7
I think so Blues Heron Mar 2022 #3
seems to me if DST is permanent it will be Standard Time. Srkdqltr Mar 2022 #8
When the sun is directly overhead, will the clock say noon or 1pm? Ptah Mar 2022 #9
Depends on where the clock is and if it talks? Srkdqltr Mar 2022 #10
Obtuse on parade. Ptah Mar 2022 #11
You are very right. Im glad you see my point. Srkdqltr Mar 2022 #12
You have no point unless it is the top of your skull. Ptah Mar 2022 #15
but not at 12:00 anywhere under this new regime Blues Heron Mar 2022 #16
I'm going to start a realignment service for existing sundials. Ptah Mar 2022 #21
It's going to be huge! Blues Heron Mar 2022 #22
According to the Lake Powell News - No changes for AZ. vsrazdem Mar 2022 #13
Thanks for that answer. Ptah Mar 2022 #14
i wouldnt be surprised if other states join arizona and opt for standard time Blues Heron Mar 2022 #17
I don't think it's possible moose65 Mar 2022 #18
no doubt, we will see how people like it this time around Blues Heron Mar 2022 #20
I hope so. LogicFirst Mar 2022 #19
Sunshine protection act. Xoan Mar 2022 #23

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
1. Just pick the time you like best and stick to it. Individual freedom, america, and let chaos ring!
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 10:27 AM
Mar 2022

Response to Ptah (Original post)

Response to Blues Heron (Reply #5)

Blues Heron

(6,131 posts)
3. I think so
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 10:30 AM
Mar 2022

Since they aren’t on it anyway, making it permanent won’t apply to them. I could be wrong. The whole opt out thing will be interesting as the experiment unfolds.

Srkdqltr

(7,660 posts)
10. Depends on where the clock is and if it talks?
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 10:47 AM
Mar 2022

The sun is always overhead ... someplace. Geezzzzzzz make this difficult.

Blues Heron

(6,131 posts)
16. but not at 12:00 anywhere under this new regime
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 10:54 AM
Mar 2022

Sundial manufacturers will be poised to make a fortune if they get out ahead of this with new models that have 1:00 in the noon position

Blues Heron

(6,131 posts)
22. It's going to be huge!
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 11:57 AM
Mar 2022

Or for half the price of a realignment, these stick on Roman numerals can be yours for one low low price!

vsrazdem

(2,184 posts)
13. According to the Lake Powell News - No changes for AZ.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 10:49 AM
Mar 2022

On Tuesday, the U.S. Senate unanimously passed a bill known as the Sunshine Protection Act. If the Bill also passes in the House of Representatives and is signed by President Biden, it would make daylight savings time permanent starting in 2023. According to the offices of Arizona’s U.S. Senators, this bill will essentially not effect Arizona, which has a permanent time zone. Since the Pacific coast states move to Mountain Standard Time during daylight savings time, Arizona would always be aligned with those states instead of being an hour ahead during the winter months. The bill specifically states that Arizona and Hawaii, the only other state that has a permanent time zone, would be allowed to remain on their current standard time. Arizona has had a permanent time zone since 1967.

Blues Heron

(6,131 posts)
17. i wouldnt be surprised if other states join arizona and opt for standard time
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 11:00 AM
Mar 2022

for all or part of the year. Does anybody know if opting out is possible?

moose65

(3,312 posts)
18. I don't think it's possible
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 11:12 AM
Mar 2022

Arizona and Hawaii are exempted from this, since they are never on Daylight Saving Time anyway.

Most of us are already on DST for nearly 8 months. DST is more "Standard" than Standard is.

Blues Heron

(6,131 posts)
20. no doubt, we will see how people like it this time around
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 11:18 AM
Mar 2022

last time it lasted for about 9 months before people were sick of busting loose in winter at the crack of dawn just so people could avoid losing an hour of sleep each spring (nobody ever complains about fall back obviously)

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