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femmedem

(8,444 posts)
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 06:14 PM Jan 2020

A new self-portrait drawing. Wanted to work with charcoal on toned paper. (large image)



Eventually I want to make my own charcoal--I've got some wild grapevines in my yard that would be perfect--but I bought this charcoal from someone on Etsy who handmade it. I was happy to find charcoal that didn't come encased in plastic packaging!


Sorry about the giant image. I should have uploaded a smaller one to Imgur.
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A new self-portrait drawing. Wanted to work with charcoal on toned paper. (large image) (Original Post) femmedem Jan 2020 OP
You look beautiful! And I really like the larger image. CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2020 #1
Thanks so much, California Peggy! femmedem Jan 2020 #4
Awesome. my brother is getting into paper making, aimed at ppl with your skills. Kurt V. Jan 2020 #2
Oooh! Feel free to send me some DU mail when he's got paper for sale. femmedem Jan 2020 #3
i will :) thanks Kurt V. Jan 2020 #5
Beautiful drawing. BarbaRosa Jan 2020 #6
Yes, I think it could. femmedem Jan 2020 #10
It's awesome lunatica Jan 2020 #7
Oh! Thank you! femmedem Jan 2020 #11
The eyes intrigue me. TomSlick Jan 2020 #8
Thank you! It was getting past midnight when I finished and I kept erasing and reworking the eyes femmedem Jan 2020 #12
It worked. TomSlick Jan 2020 #15
Very well done! Ohiogal Jan 2020 #9
Thank you! femmedem Jan 2020 #13
Wow! And charcoal is sooooo hard to work with especially for a fine detailed portrait like this, emmaverybo Jan 2020 #14
Thanks! Charcoal feels like playing to me: not intimidating. I can't get too detailed femmedem Jan 2020 #30
Wow! That is really superb! Mickju Jan 2020 #16
Thank you, Mickju. femmedem Jan 2020 #31
You're very good. (And beautiful!) fierywoman Jan 2020 #17
Thank you! femmedem Jan 2020 #33
Very impressive! panader0 Jan 2020 #18
Thanks. I don't know if I have talent but I've been studying and practicing. femmedem Jan 2020 #34
You look great! bluecollar2 Jan 2020 #19
Thanks! Way back when I joined, DU seemed more misogynistic at times. femmedem Jan 2020 #32
ohm myyyyy! . AllaN01Bear Jan 2020 #20
Thanks so much! femmedem Jan 2020 #38
That is really good. Sloumeau Jan 2020 #21
Thanks! She has a drawable face for sure. femmedem Jan 2020 #35
That is beautiful! BadGimp Jan 2020 #22
Thank you for your kind words. femmedem Jan 2020 #37
Exquisite! Are you a professional artist? I would say you are! MLAA Jan 2020 #23
Thanks! I'm not, except that I did just have a show and sold a handful of paintings. femmedem Jan 2020 #36
Sounds like a wonderful future you have planned 😊 MLAA Jan 2020 #42
You must be so relieved he's doing better! femmedem Jan 2020 #43
When I was in art school we had a guest artist BigmanPigman Jan 2020 #24
I didn't know you'd gone to art school! It's Strathmore 400 recycled toned paper. femmedem Jan 2020 #28
No, the large image is perfect. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2020 #25
Well done! Bayard Jan 2020 #26
Thanks! femmedem Jan 2020 #41
Nicely done! The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #27
Ha! Yes, it can get messy! I was holding the sketchpad in one hand and drawing with the other femmedem Jan 2020 #39
I think it's wonderful! Karadeniz Jan 2020 #29
Thank you, Karadeniz! femmedem Jan 2020 #40
I like it. It has a lot of character. JudyM Jan 2020 #44

CaliforniaPeggy

(152,110 posts)
1. You look beautiful! And I really like the larger image.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 06:19 PM
Jan 2020

It's easier to see the details.

You are quite talented!

femmedem

(8,444 posts)
4. Thanks so much, California Peggy!
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 06:23 PM
Jan 2020

Because I've only been drawing and painting again since July, I feel like I'm getting better by the week.

femmedem

(8,444 posts)
3. Oooh! Feel free to send me some DU mail when he's got paper for sale.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 06:21 PM
Jan 2020

If I can, I prefer supporting independent makers if I can't make something myself.

BarbaRosa

(2,690 posts)
6. Beautiful drawing.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 06:31 PM
Jan 2020

I'm wondering, (not trying to be funny) I use lump charcoal in my Kamado Joe barbecue. It's pure hard wood charcoal with no additives.
Could this be used to draw with?



Just a thought.

femmedem

(8,444 posts)
10. Yes, I think it could.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 06:53 PM
Jan 2020

I don't know what it's qualities would be, because charcoal varies in richness and color depending on the wood and how it was charred. Here's a short article: https://evanlindquist.com/othermedia/makecharcoal.html

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
7. It's awesome
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 06:31 PM
Jan 2020

as in it fills me with awe!

I love every detail of this. The highlights and shadows are great, and I especially like what you did with them on your neck.

Even though it doesn’t show any obvious expression there is still a fascination with what you might be thinking.

Your eyes are incredibly strong and profound and you did a great job working on them.

I like your small almost extraneous detail work in your hair strands framing your face.

And I like the combination of heavy line work mixed with very light lines.

You’re going to knock their socks off in life drawing classes!

femmedem

(8,444 posts)
11. Oh! Thank you!
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 06:54 PM
Jan 2020

It turns out that turkey neck is really fun to draw.

Your work fills me with awe, too.

TomSlick

(11,894 posts)
8. The eyes intrigue me.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 06:37 PM
Jan 2020

I can't tell if they are sad - or thoughtful - or intense. I see an emotion, I just cannot identify it. Rather like Mona Lisa's lips.

I'll I can tell is that the drawing is moving.

femmedem

(8,444 posts)
12. Thank you! It was getting past midnight when I finished and I kept erasing and reworking the eyes
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 06:57 PM
Jan 2020

until the paper wouldn't accept any more changes. So the eyes might just be saying that I was getting tired but was concentrating.

Ohiogal

(34,765 posts)
9. Very well done!
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 06:52 PM
Jan 2020

You have a good eye for faces,which to me, are difficult to master. Plus it’s fun to get an idea of what you look like! Excellent rendering!

femmedem

(8,444 posts)
13. Thank you!
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 07:00 PM
Jan 2020

Faces are tricky because if you get them wrong they look monstrous; we're so attuned to facial detail.

femmedem

(8,444 posts)
30. Thanks! Charcoal feels like playing to me: not intimidating. I can't get too detailed
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 08:48 PM
Jan 2020

but on the other hand, it's so workable; I can just keep erasing and smudging and redrawing until I'm happy with it.

femmedem

(8,444 posts)
32. Thanks! Way back when I joined, DU seemed more misogynistic at times.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 08:51 PM
Jan 2020

Lots of posts judging women harshly for their looks or their clothes so I wanted to be clear that I'm a woman. I think the user name femdem was already taken.

femmedem

(8,444 posts)
35. Thanks! She has a drawable face for sure.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 08:55 PM
Jan 2020

I like working from life more than from photos (which means I end up being my own model quite a bit) but if I were to draw from a photo, she'd be an inspiring choice.

femmedem

(8,444 posts)
37. Thank you for your kind words.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 08:59 PM
Jan 2020

I don't want to flood DU but I'll post work from time to time. You're all so supportive!

femmedem

(8,444 posts)
36. Thanks! I'm not, except that I did just have a show and sold a handful of paintings.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 08:57 PM
Jan 2020

I did go to art school way back in the day, though. I enjoy my non-art-related job, but when I'm able to retire I'd like to divide my time between drawing/painting and activism.

MLAA

(18,608 posts)
42. Sounds like a wonderful future you have planned 😊
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 09:13 PM
Jan 2020

I retired and started taking painting lessons. Had to put it on hold for the last six months due to husband ‘s health issues, but now he is on the mend I will start up again soon.

BigmanPigman

(52,269 posts)
24. When I was in art school we had a guest artist
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 08:13 PM
Jan 2020

come and teach a class. He told us that when he was growing up in a rural area he thought that charcoal was the kind used to BBQ so he got a charcoal briquette to draw with.

I was an illustrator and used fashion pads to draw figures all the time. I haven't been able to find a whole pad in 20 years, not even when I went to a huge art supply store in France. I loved to sketch with black and white conte crayons on the toned paper. Where did you find a whole pad of it?

femmedem

(8,444 posts)
28. I didn't know you'd gone to art school! It's Strathmore 400 recycled toned paper.
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 08:44 PM
Jan 2020

Last edited Sun Jan 5, 2020, 07:53 AM - Edit history (1)

I got it at a local art store but DickBlick has it: https://www.dickblick.com/products/strathmore-400-series-recycled-toned-sketch-wirebound-journals/

Edited to add: Strathmore has a higher quality toned 500 series as well: https://www.strathmoreartist.com/draw-charcoal/id-500-series-charcoal.html

The Velveteen Ocelot

(120,900 posts)
27. Nicely done!
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 08:17 PM
Jan 2020

I've never tried charcoal (I'd smear it all over and get it on the cats) but it certainly creates interesting effects.

femmedem

(8,444 posts)
39. Ha! Yes, it can get messy! I was holding the sketchpad in one hand and drawing with the other
Sat Jan 4, 2020, 09:02 PM
Jan 2020

because I knew if I put it down on a surface my four cats would be all over it.

(I broke my cheap easel carting it around to paint landscapes; need to get another, better one.)

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