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Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
Wed May 13, 2015, 07:47 PM May 2015

On the TPP: Socialism vs. Capitalism

On the TPP:

There is a reactionary revolution taking place ...
And I hate to use the terms together, but one is going on before our eyes. The last vestige of social cohesion will wither, ironically, right before us, collectively.

What we have here is no less than the international revolution of capitalism, borne from the ideas of Trotsky's international socialism. The capitalists, in their reactionary fervor, adapted, and revolutionized the world and organization from the top down. They ensured that the international proletariat would factionalize, and to cue the coup de grace, made it possible for international capitalists to find common cause. Capital can cross national boundaries, while labor remains isolated. There is solidarity, not of labor, but of the wealthy class. And so, top-down authoritarianism has won, and won, ironically, by a man who is pejoratively called a socialist.

It's actually quite brilliant ... If you're part of the owning class.

X-posted from here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026668848

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On the TPP: Socialism vs. Capitalism (Original Post) Fantastic Anarchist May 2015 OP
The same "socialist" who received the majority of his money from Wall Street? guillaumeb May 2015 #1
Agreed, the overall strategy doesn't negate the various tactics ... Fantastic Anarchist May 2015 #2
We're definitely getting our asses kicked right about now. Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #3
Yeah, this is a real kick in the teeth to workers. n/t Fantastic Anarchist May 2015 #4

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
1. The same "socialist" who received the majority of his money from Wall Street?
Wed May 13, 2015, 08:01 PM
May 2015

From the post:
"The capitalists, in their reactionary fervor, adapted, and revolutionized the world and organization from the top down.They ensured that the international proletariat would factionalize, and to cue the coup de grace, made it possible for international capitalists to find common cause. Capital can cross national boundaries, while labor remains isolated. There is solidarity, not of labor, but of the wealthy "

My addition:
And the capitalists used nationalism, and religion, and of course race, as tools to divide the workers.

We also see the genius of the capitalists when we hear the voices of workers who defend the capitalists. They defend tax cuts for the rich, they defend the destruction of unions, they defend the power of money to buy politicians.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
2. Agreed, the overall strategy doesn't negate the various tactics ...
Wed May 13, 2015, 08:06 PM
May 2015

... that you mention.

And in the flip side, you have the so-called called liberals who defend capitalism even as they fight those who use such tactics.

And so, with friends like these, as the saying goes ...

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
3. We're definitely getting our asses kicked right about now.
Thu May 14, 2015, 12:23 AM
May 2015

DU seems pretty riled up about this TPP thing. I hope it gets blocked. But if it does pass, maybe some good will come of it. Maybe people will realize what their party leadership really stands for and then organize to shake up the system.

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