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TBF

(34,318 posts)
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 11:56 AM Oct 2015

"So it goes"

Last edited Sun Oct 18, 2015, 12:45 PM - Edit history (1)

A brief interlude from the wars in GD: P as I am thinking of our comrade and brother Kurt Vonnegut, who I'm sure would be quite interested in our election this cycle.

“The year was 2081, and everyone was finally equal.” Kurt Vonnegut’s prediction for the future.

Vonnegut had a knack for seeing, and pointing out, those things that are right in front of us but that we manage to ignore. Although his writing was often off the wall and outlandish, this was generally coupled with a simple moral lesson. Vonnegut did not write large heavily-symbolic theses on life and humanity, he wrote disjointed observations loosely connected by a plot. However, these observations were, for many people, deeply morally affecting.

Most of his books concern death, tragedy, and madness, and a fair few focus on the end of the world. Often he ascribed this to the mistakes of science. Vonnegut was trying to cut through all the bullshit that surrounds how we live our lives and ask if any of it was really helping people. Why is the atom bomb scientific progress? If it is progress then what good is it for us? Wouldn’t it just be much easier if we turned our attention to helping each other?

A lot is currently being made of Vonnegut’s famous humanism. Certainly the moral of much of his work seems focussed on the innate goodness of humanity, despite the tragedy and horror we inflict on ourselves. He succeeded Isaac Asimov as the President of the American Humanist Association.

But we should also remember that Vonnegut was, in his own peculiar way, a socialist. He named characters after the great early US socialist leader (and fellow native of Indiana) Eugene Debs. He also named characters after Leon Trotsky. He would quote Debs in his novels. (But then Debs made some great speeches: “As long as there is a lower class, I am in it. As long as there is a criminal element, I’m of it. As long as there is a soul in prison, I am not free.” ...

More here: http://www.workersliberty.org/node/8232

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"So it goes" (Original Post) TBF Oct 2015 OP
A quibble: "So it goes" was Vonnegut's quote. "And so it goes…" was Linda Ellerbee's tag line . . . Journeyman Oct 2015 #1
I've updated the title - TBF Oct 2015 #2

Journeyman

(15,148 posts)
1. A quibble: "So it goes" was Vonnegut's quote. "And so it goes…" was Linda Ellerbee's tag line . . .
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 12:11 PM
Oct 2015

used when she signed off from her television newscasts and as the title of her first autobiography.

Of course, Vonnegut was the better writer. Why, just look at the brevity of his phrase vs Ellerbee's.

TBF

(34,318 posts)
2. I've updated the title -
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 12:47 PM
Oct 2015

I agree that it should be the exact quote rather than Ellerbee's later use. Thanks!

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