Propaganda Debunking
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[font color = blue]AM950Radio> Jeb Bush says that people need to start working longer and harder to improve the economy. What a statement from an heir of a family fortune! - [/font]
[font color = brown]R.W. Troll> ...try to be honest... He said those words, but it's pretty obvious that he meant more than the part time work they are doing now ( you know, the less than 30 hours a week because of Obamacare?)[/font]
[font color = blue]Carlos>
Under G.W. Bush, Part-time workers increased by 2,954,000
while full-time workers increased by 1,556,000
Under Obama, Part-time workers increased by 1,290,000
while full-time workers increased by 5,235,000
Seems like if anyone was the part-time president, it was G.W. Bush.
Since the bottom of the jobs market in February 2010 (coincidentally one month before Obamacare was passed and signed)
Part-time workers increased by 40,000 while full-time workers increased by 10,275,000
Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics
Using the BLS's Table A-9 part-time and full-time numbers http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t09.htm
Part-time workers: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS12600000
Full-time workers: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS12500000
Maybe Jeb! should talk to his big bro about what NOT to do.[/font]
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By the way, the BLS's definition of full-time workers is 35 or more hours/week, while the Obamacare employer mandate for providing healthcare insurance is 30 hours/week. So if all that many employers were moving away from full-time to part-time jobs, it would show up in the above BLS statistics, but sure doesn't seem to. Also, involuntary part-timers has been falling for years.
DJ13
(23,671 posts)progree
(11,463 posts)Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)about what he "really" meant. He doubled down on his comment by adding that we need to be "more productive". That always means that we have to do more with less...it always has meant that in terms of economics. It means that if I work eight hours and produce ten widgets, they want me to find a way to streamline it and get my speed up to fifteen widgets. THAT is more productivity.
And since I keep hearing that we took this out of context, his full quote:
Notice the comment about "workforce participation" being at "all-time modern lows"? That obviously is not about unemployment, which has been much lower in the recent past (ahem, like when another Bush was in office).
progree
(11,463 posts)And on payroll jobs:
Bush: +1.3 million
Obama: +7.7 million (thru May)
On labor force participation -- of course what they say is that millions have quit looking because there are no jobs out there -- and therefore they are not counted in the unemployment statistics (one must have looked for work in the last 4 weeks in order to be counted in the official unemployment rate statistic U-3).
The Council of Economic Advisers and the Bureau of Labor Statistics says about half the drop in the LFPR is due to boomer retirements, about 1/4 is due to a still difficult economy (but a hell of a lot better than what Obama inherited), and about 1/4 is, well, a head-scratcher.