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I am off today. Sitting around smoking a vile cheap cigar. So...this is your chance to ask a cop anything. I will reply between puffs of my cigar and the picking of wild paw-paw fruits.
Donut and bacon posts will be chuckled at and maybe replied to!!!
steve2470
(37,481 posts)do you take offense easily ? This might not be fun for you. Just trying to help.
TheDeputy
(224 posts)Have at it. Just try to keep the questions real.
I can't think of a question that might not offend you, so I'll be quiet.
Best wishes to you and all the other good cops. We need you ladies and gentlemen.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)It is the observation of many here that local law enforcement has been "militarized" over the last 12 years. I'd love to hear your take on it.
Thanks, and welcome to DU.
TheDeputy
(224 posts)We are big city and old-school. Ohio hasn't seen, in my experience much of this. I am just short of 6 years experience. I started the job when I was about 31, so came from a less "gung-ho" attitude than a young rookie.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)... an influx of cash from DHS and if so, what has your deparment purchased with it?
We have a regional SWAT team. It is shared with about 35 jurisdictions. I am not privy to the equipment it has. I know we got new metal detectors at the courthouse.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)TheDeputy
(224 posts)I know there are approximately 50 people charged with murder currently housed in the jail.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Is it true cops have the best dope?
It is in the evidence room.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)ret5hd
(22,502 posts)bunnies
(15,859 posts)TheDeputy
(224 posts)But still sub-40...so I don't care!
Well... Im 40 & I still use it. No one said I had to ACT 40.
and the only ones that use "po-po" that I know of of are poser punks that wanna act like they are cool.

loli phabay
(5,580 posts)TheDeputy
(224 posts)It is pretty funny. White kids say Popo around here. Black kids generally say Po-Leese. Hispanics (illegal alien types) say it like Polish without the "h" on the end. Cartel members (We have a big presence of illegals who are members of the Sinaloa drug cartel or MS-13 or other criminal syndicates) say Policia. Little kids are the cutest. "Hi Mr. Policeman".
Kali
(56,829 posts)we generally frown on "illegal aliens" or illegals on DU. People can do illegal things but THEY are not illegal. I know it is very common usage but even here near the border the authorities use UDAs (Undocumented Aliens).
Personally, (and it is very personal to me) I call the people passing through my area migrants. They are moving across the landscape looking to survive and better their lives for the most part, and I get a little hot under the collar when I see dehumanizing language used towards them.
Welcome to DU. Do you have any opinions about immigration policy or the militarization of our international boundaries? Or rather, the southern one.
TheDeputy
(224 posts)I have had plenty of dealings with members of the Sinaloa Cartel. This includes charges of murder. The Cartel is here because of the drug trade and smuggles heroin (more than cocaine) all the time. The border must be secured against this scourge. I have been to far too many death scenes related to heroin that can be traced back to the Mexican Cartels. The Cartels are all around. Cincinnati, Columbus, Cleveland, Chicago, Indianapolis. The Midwest has a massive problem. I'm sure it is even worse in the southwest. Secure our border, hunt them down, imprison them, then deport them. I have no sympathy for drug dealers and smugglers. The Cartels are also involved in lots of human trafficking. They are a disgusting lot.
Kali
(56,829 posts)many even escaping the drug war situation in Mexico and elsewhere. there is no securing the border - that is a fool's errand, as is trying to stem drug trade via the supply chain. it is time to try some other approach.
TheDeputy
(224 posts)I am sympathetic, but more sympathetic towards the needs of the people who are terrorized by the drug cartels. The border must be secured. Thousands are dying due to the drug trade.
Koko Ware
(107 posts)as Washington...
TheDeputy
(224 posts)LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)It seems to me as though police have become more aggressive.
TheDeputy
(224 posts)The way information is shared has changed. We can read about local events on a national forum like this one. Widely scattered improper behavior then seems to be more widespread than it actually is.
mockmonkey
(2,964 posts)would they still tell him to stop resisting?
You leave the room and leave the rookie to do the report. Sarge, I swear I wasn't there!
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)With the way information moves around so fast now, small town events become large in seconds.
So, the question I have on this one would be... How do you suppose that could be improved?
I mean, in regards to a culture change. I tend to think that any enforcement group becomes tight knit and protect each other, which also means that a more popular member of such a group can directly influence bad behavior. How would such a thing be avoided?
TheDeputy
(224 posts)It requires a strong person.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)Problem is, there has to be a start. Unfortunately those that do try get bogged down by the system.
I can't really suggest much in that... but!
As a suggestion, I do think that schools should start teaching non-religious civics classes that deal with laws and courtesy, that doubles with Physical Education. Have it taught once or twice a week by Officers who can talk about the laws and maybe even self defence at the same time.
My reasoning, is that in teaching, it is a way for officers to also be mindful of laws and courtesy that they have to prepare curriculum for.
Possible benefits are many-fold. It is a type of community outreach, it inculcates courtesy and patterns of behavior on children and reinforcement for officers as well.
Ah, but I just talk too much.
--On Edit--
Actually, I don't know if that is even feasible or allowed. Now thinking about it, it would require dealing with the school systems, and probably have to go all the way to the governor...
Well, I thought it could have been a decent idea.
Still, if I were to propose such a thing, who would I contact to do so?
TheDeputy
(224 posts)They are great for things like this. Would probably require a waiver of having a teaching certificate.
I'll try asking for that.
Think it would help?
TheDeputy
(224 posts)In politics come from the people. I always try to have a good relationship with my state reps. Depending on the year, some are Dems and some are Reps. Good ideas should be non partisan and a good rep will listen.
DebJ
(7,699 posts)As long as the students will respond positively.
ismnotwasm
(42,674 posts)Which I don't share. I live in a working class neighborhood and am glad you guys are around. On one memorable occasion I was assisting at a accident scene (I'm a nurse) and someone stole my phone. The young cop went above and beyond to try to find it, he was so outraged. Nice guy.
Anyway, to uncomfortable topics; My question, I live in Seattle, and you might know about the federal investigation of the Seattle police department, and the outcome of that. What do you think the best way is to foster better working relationships between police and the community?
TheDeputy
(224 posts)But I love the area. My uncle lives on one of the islands in the sound. As far as better relations, the best thing in officer can do is get out of his car and just talk to people.
ismnotwasm
(42,674 posts)surrealAmerican
(11,879 posts)... and what do they taste like, anyway?
TheDeputy
(224 posts)I eat them. They taste sort of like bananas. Sort of like nuts. They are delicious.
surrealAmerican
(11,879 posts)I've wanted to grow paw-paws ever since I first read about them, but, living in the city, I'll probably never have the opportunity to do so.
TheDeputy
(224 posts)They must be in a shades area, though.
surrealAmerican
(11,879 posts)... "living in the city" means, if I can't grow it in a flower pot on the windowsill (where there is no direct sunlight for three months of the year), I can't grow it. My basil just barely survives. I have no yard.
Phentex
(16,709 posts)Who removes all the little doodads you seemed to have pinned all over it?
TheDeputy
(224 posts)I like to look good. I have, on my summer uniform, a badge, nameplate, US flag, three special unit pins (investigator, honor guard, training officer) 8 buttons, and two pieces of collar brass. I take them off and put them on. It takes forever.
Phentex
(16,709 posts)Special significance to some of them.
TheDeputy
(224 posts)Crossed swords or rifles mean honor guard. An eagle with stuff in talons means SWAT. A cross or other religious symbol means chaplain.
Ask the officer, he will usually be cool about explaining them.
Renew Deal
(85,148 posts)TheDeputy
(224 posts)If you have his real name, I can tell you.
Bertha Venation
(21,484 posts)TheDeputy
(224 posts)What is it?
steve2470
(37,481 posts)I don't know why. You'd have to do a thorough search through DU2.
Bertha Venation
(21,484 posts)a very convincing sock puppet. I'm not going to say more because he'd probably get off on seeing his names revived (in case he lurks).
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)What was your initial reason for joining the force and does it still apply today?
The huge majority of experiences I've had with you people (
) has been very positive. I've been rescued by cops three separate occasions, two separate states. I can only think of one bad encounter. CHIPs. What an ass.
Thanks for the good you do. Next time some smart ass flips you off, just smile and wave. Don't give them what they want.
Oh, and be safe. I'm from Chicago. I know it's not always easy to stay safe for you guys.
TheDeputy
(224 posts)My only regret is being on 2nd shift. I love my job. I like solving problems. Wait, one more regret. I regret not having enough money for donuts.
We'll take up a collection and get you a Dunkin' Donuts gift card.
I worked third shift for awhile. It almost killed me and I was just a graphic artist. I read a study a few years back that said people never truly adjust to 2nd or 3rd shifts. No matter how much we kick and scream and claim we love the night, we're all morning people.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)I like nights when you have time for paperwork second half, and getting to bbq at eight in the morning when everyone else is going to work.
steve2470
(37,481 posts)Here's a question for you:
What percentage of law enforcement officers, that you have met in some capacity, are social conservatives ?
I have an assumption but I await your answer. Thanks for tolerating this.
eta: Again, I'm glad we have cops. I'm especially glad we have GOOD cops.
TheDeputy
(224 posts)We are generally pro-union. We are also pragmatic. We look for real world solutions. Most don't care at all about gay issues. Neither hostile nor pro. It is essentially a "live and let live" attitude. Most think the President's healthcare law sucks. Most support decriminalizing weed. Most think new gun control laws are useless. Most think highway speed limits should be raised. Most support drug courts and diversion programs for addicts. It is a mixed bag. Most think democrats are soft on crime and republicans are hard on unions. All of us think we are smarter than the elected officials!
steve2470
(37,481 posts)dr.strangelove
(4,851 posts)which means the male members of my family are essentially plumbers, cops and firemen. One of my grandfathers and two uncles were cops, three cousins are cops. I like to think all of them are, or were, "good" cops. Instead of a question, I just want to thank you for your service. Its often a thankless job and usually an underpaid job. I think for the most part, cops are good people. The biggest problem I find is that even when a cop sees one of the few bad apples do something wrong, the "wall of silence" goes up and the good cops try to handle it inside the force. Its my biggest criticsm because, such treatment can not be cured from inside. Anyway, I tip my hat to you for your career choice and wish you the best of luck. Please be safe out there.
TheDeputy
(224 posts)You got that right. I would love to have New York pay, though. If one does the job for the pay, he is doing it for the wrong reasons.
Taverner
(55,476 posts)TheDeputy
(224 posts)Violence is warranted against any person who is doing violence to you. I fully support your right to defend yourself and family.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)TheDeputy
(224 posts)Hilarious post.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)TheDeputy
(224 posts)Sometimes the rookies may be.
Callmecrazy
(3,070 posts)the recreational use of marijuana.
I've been enjoying marijuana for over thirty years and have never had a fight or even the felt hostile when high. I've also been responsible when smoking weed. I don't smoke while I'm working and I don't drive while high. I've never sold or shared it with kids, and I hate being drunk. Some people will have a beer after work. I take few hits from a pipe and I'm good for the night. It helps me chill out from the daily stress of my day.
I've never understood why it was illegal. You never hear about "reefer addicts" smoking up and pulling thrill seeking liquor store holdups to get more money for a bag of weed.
I'm just curious how you feel about marijuana users in general. Are we all a bunch of hardcore criminals?
TheDeputy
(224 posts)Keep the money away from the gangs and get people employed.
Callmecrazy
(3,070 posts)But do you hassle someone over a little bag of personal weed? Or is it on a case by case basis?
blueamy66
(6,795 posts)Why even bother with someone with a little bag of personal weed?
TheDeputy
(224 posts)In Ohio it is the same level as a speeding ticket. The person determines what I do. A decent and polite person gets to dump it in a street drain. An asshole gets to go to court.
blueamy66
(6,795 posts)distantearlywarning
(4,475 posts)Sounds like a good way to handle things.
jmowreader
(53,193 posts)mainer
(12,554 posts)or is there another meaning I don't know?
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)TheDeputy
(224 posts)I am not an administrator. I would love to be permanently assigned to the fugitive warrant section.
IBEWVET
(217 posts)Should I just sit with hands on wheel or roll down window or open door and get out.
Thanks
Callmecrazy
(3,070 posts)I'm from LU 357 in Las Vegas. Transplanted to Florida.
1937 Pensacola. Go union
TheDeputy
(224 posts)A traffic stop is very dangerous for the officer. Your best way out of a citation is to roll down all windows, turn on your overhead light, and stay in the car. Be frank and proper. Most people who gets tickets talk themselves into it. Be honest and take your lumps. You just might get a break.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I was almost positive the cop was going to write me a ticket. Clearly I was going way over the limit and they were sitting there in the median. I rolled down my window handed over the right paperwork and apologized for being stupid.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)And rather than arguing at the roadside the ticket gets written and you can argue in court. Also never get out the vehicle unless told to, keep hands inplain sight and if your carrying advise you have a concealed.
Bucky
(55,334 posts)I've flirted, but I can never tell if she's flirting back. We danced in a parking lot last night, but I never got the "get over here and smooch me" signals from her. Also, she's like 5'10"--did I mention that?--and heels it up on a regular basis which can be awkward if I'm trying to plant one on her. Oh, and she's like 10 years younger than me. And yet other times she seems to be making an effort to go to the places I go. Should I make a move or just move on and enjoy the friendship?
(and please don't say "Talk with her honestly about your feelings" cause that's just a load of baloney.)
TheDeputy
(224 posts)Dancing in the parking lot? She wants you. Ask her out for drinks to a place you two don't normally frequent. Make a comment about how you are with the prettiest girl in the bar. Get on tip-toes. Make out.
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Duer 157099
(17,742 posts)I always think that if I smile and wave at them that they'll pull me over. Is that true?
TheDeputy
(224 posts)So, if you are transporting heroin or dead hookers in the trunk, wave at the cops like a child waves at Chuck E. Cheese. Otherwise, a friendly acknowledgement is appreciated.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)TheDeputy
(224 posts)Tactically foolish but legal. I have no issue with it. I carry a gun openly for work. I have no issue with anybody else doing it. All my professional dealings with open carriers have been positive. I never do it off duty, though, unless out hiking or something.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)What are the top 5 stupidest things you've seen people do? I'm really curious about that. You probably have some good stories.
TheDeputy
(224 posts)1st was a guy who was frying bacon while naked. The bacon grease splattered and...well...your imagination can take care of the rest.
2nd was a woman who saw a deer get hit by a car. The deer had two broken legs and wasn't going anywhere. This kind-hearted but dim-witted lady charged the deer while screaming "poor baby" and hugged it. The deer did not take kindly to this and beat the hell out of her with his two working legs.
Next was a guy at jail. He was drunk and was banging his head on a window to get attention. I said, "maybe if you do it harder they will listen." I was a rookie and didn't realize what drunks will do. He stepped back and did it harder and promptly knocked himself out.
4th. Sometimes undercover guys must participate in an interview with a suspect or have to go to the station for whatever reason. They wear ski masks to hide their identities. One of the UC guys forgot his ski mask when he had to go to headquarters, so he put on one of his kids' giant horse head masks and walked into work.
5th. The numerous incidents where a couple is using handcuffs in the bedroom...and lose the keys.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)At least he showed a sense of humor.
TheDeputy
(224 posts)Not at all.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)#1. The drunk driver who jumped into his trunk locking himself in trying to hide.
#2. A citizen asking if she could take the injured bear home instead of me euthanizing it.
#3. A cop putting his gun in a steel microwave thinking it was a lockbox.
#4. Arriving on scene with a guy covered in cheese dust as his cheese puff bag exploded when he hit the brakes hard and everything slammed forward.
#5. People who call because they believe the crack or meth they bought is fake.
maddezmom
(135,060 posts)TheDeputy
(224 posts)If she wants to out herself, she will. I come from a weird background. I come from a line of elected officials. My grandpa was A democrat and was a member of the State Senate. My uncle is a Democrat and is on another states Supreme Court. My dad is Republican and was Mayor. I was a screaming right winger for years. My best friend then came out of the closet to me. I noted that he was still the same guy and I have gradually changed. Then Senate Bill 5 in Ohio came along. The republicans tried to destroy my union. Then I fell in love with a woman who I considered to be a pie in the sky left wing lunatic. She has changed some of my views and I have changed some of her views. She understands now that peace and love doesn't work on everybody and that there are truly evil people. I moved quite a bit in her direction. It has been good for me.
maddezmom
(135,060 posts)Now I am curious if your gf will own up to you.
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)MrScorpio
(73,772 posts)Too many departments are behaving like occupying armies today, treating civilians as if they're potential enemy combatants, rather than law enforcement organizations that serve and protect the community?
Why have this gotten out of hand so much recently?
irisblue
(37,508 posts)is there a very high percentage of bald men in law enforcement or is there another reason for the male chrome dome look. (not all heads look good shaved)
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)Its called kojackulation. Hope this clears it up for you.
nolabear
(43,850 posts)I have a sister who works 911 and a couple of officers in the near family. And I'm a therapist. And I STILL sometimes think "Aw, no. How can this happen?"
TheDeputy
(224 posts)Or the other way around, and seeing the kids in the next room. That does it for me, every time.
petronius
(26,696 posts)"I clocked you at 90 but I'm going to cut you some slack and write it for 80" does he seriously think that I don't know exactly how fast I was going, and that I see right through his transparent attempt to make me think he's a nice fellow?
TheDeputy
(224 posts)No clue on that.
petronius
(26,696 posts)taught at the academy?
Maybe this guy just liked to be liked (and he actually was fairly pleasant, except for the whole citation-book thing)...
Earth_First
(14,910 posts)Serious question.
TheDeputy
(224 posts)State troopers are inherently angry.
Earth_First
(14,910 posts)Nothing beats enjoying what you do for a living.
However you do raise a good point on State Police seeming the most miserable of all.
I mean, it's a chosen career, and at the State law enforcement level, a position that an individual attainted through much hard work and devotion to enter those ranks.
So why be so miserable? Or is it simply a 'game face' thing? Which might I add, if such is the case, is unfortunate.
Thanks!
TheDeputy
(224 posts)Are traffic cops only. Have very little jurisdiction otherwise. If all I did was wrote tickets, I'd be pissed too.
steve2470
(37,481 posts)I know the obvious ones.
TheDeputy
(224 posts)The cops goal is to get it over with so he can respond to the next call.
Be forthright, honest, and don't use weasel words. Describe what you saw.
yuiyoshida
(45,409 posts)if so, details!
TheDeputy
(224 posts)My jokes usually fall flat.
yuiyoshida
(45,409 posts)Not too flat!
I thought I would ask because when I was a kid, and my dad was driving us home from the drive in theatre one dark night, he pulled over to the side of the road to show us something up in the sky. It flashed many colors of lights as it streaked across the sky and at one point appeared to reverse direction. The next day it was reported in the news paper, seen over three different states. Witnesses said it wasn't a meteor because of the way it had changed directions so quickly. The story disappeared the next day and was more or less forgotten..
TheDeputy
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MiddleFingerMom
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And does that qualify for guaranteed arrest/ticket? I had a classmate in college
who was obviously drunk outside a bar and she got into an argument with two
officers and actually said that.
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I told her later what a monumental asshole she had sounded like and that I was
surprised they simply eased her away from the bar and got her to walk home.
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TheDeputy
(224 posts)Hilariously, the people who usually say that stuff are on government assistance. Once, I gave the person a penny an said "ok. Here is your refund. You can keep the change."
Incitatus
(5,317 posts)TheDeputy
(224 posts)Or living in government housing.
kalisto2010
(64 posts)If someone told you that someone was grabbing your their head and bashing it into the concrete during the rain, and they were bald headed, would you believe him? Or would you ask him, how is that possible if there's no fingernail scratches on your head or DNA under the fingernails of the deceased?
TheDeputy
(224 posts)I would look at all the evidence.
DNA wouldn't be a factor. It is frequent that there is no DNA under nails, especially on males.
I won't get into the specifics of the GZ/TM case. I would be happy to answer general questions about court, standards of proof, what not guilty REALLY means, etc.
kalisto2010
(64 posts)So does the Police pick and choose what evidence is important in any given investigation? Shouldn't the physical evidence back up the crime scene? If someone pummeled me to the brink of death, I think DNA should be the first thing you should look at. I would always give the deceased the benefit of the doubt.
TheDeputy
(224 posts)Our system of justice always gives the ACCUSED the benefit of the doubt.
DNA is usually used to prove that a person was at the scene. In the proposed scenario, we already know both parties were there, and in a fight. Therefore DNA wouldn't be very important.
As far as OJ. I don't remember the case too much, but if he denied being there, but his DNA was there, it could be used to show that he was there.
Oh, and yes. The police and prosecutors do choose what evidence is important for that case. Real life is nothing like CSI.
frogmarch
(12,251 posts)such as The New Detectives and Forensic Files?
I wish LE in my town would so they could pick up some crime-solving pointers.
TheDeputy
(224 posts)They are not true to life. All the boring shit gets left out.
HipChick
(25,612 posts)He did, he looked like he worked out...he ended up giving me a warning,instead of a ticket but is it wrong to give compliments?
TheDeputy
(224 posts)Here is the way I do things. I take the level of action that I think I need to in order for you to voluntarily comply with the traffic laws.
If I think a warning does it. Then you get a warning. If I think a citation will do it, then you get that. If you are an asshole then I will write every violation I can on you.
HipChick
(25,612 posts)and its either the choice between me driving the black BMW and a Prius....and the Prius overtook me, why is it you always stop me?
Initech
(108,777 posts)My brother is an ER resident and he says the most realistic shows to his profession are Scrubs and House.
TheDeputy
(224 posts)Police work is absurd. We see lots of funny shit. Maybe Super Troopers
Initech
(108,777 posts)REP
(21,691 posts)Initech
(108,777 posts)REP
(21,691 posts)Initech
(108,777 posts)"You mean Shenanigans?"
"OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHH!!!"