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CTyankee

(65,020 posts)
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 01:00 PM Oct 26

Did you have to take Latin when you were in middle/high school?

Back in my day, if you wanted to take French or Spanish you had to have Latin first. I was so pissed off. I was just a kid but my mother took me to Paris when I was 16 and I was in love with the French language and the movies filmed there.

But I am really glad I did have those awful Latin classes. I found it so useful to my English vocabulary and my ability to write. It was invaluable.

What do you think?

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Did you have to take Latin when you were in middle/high school? (Original Post) CTyankee Oct 26 OP
I Didn't Have To Deep State Witch Oct 26 #1
Well, you win this thread. But maybe a little Creole might be helpful in this election year. eppur_se_muova Oct 26 #35
Latin wasn't offered in my school. Rich took it at his HS in Boston because he had plans on being a doctor. debm55 Oct 26 #2
I did not take Latin, but had a study hall in a Latin class taught by a man who looked like Danny Devito as a monk. Silent Type Oct 26 #3
No. BlueKota Oct 26 #4
I was raised in France drray23 Oct 26 #5
Hic, heac, hoc. huius, huius, huius. huic, huic, huic. cachukis Oct 26 #6
I have never forgotten that but was it declension or conjugation? CTyankee Oct 26 #7
Declension. cachukis Oct 26 #29
You should take something for that.... yorkster Oct 26 #19
I didn't take it, but I went to law school. Do I get partial credit? rsdsharp Oct 26 #8
My question is: would you been better off in law school if you had taken Latin earlier in your education? CTyankee Oct 26 #9
Probably not. Reading and writing in Latin wasn't required. rsdsharp Oct 26 #13
Yes, partial credit indeed. I was the only one in my environmental law class that knew what sylvaculture was. RussellCattle Oct 28 #56
Took it in 7th grade. I don't remember why and i remember none of it. BoomaofBandM Oct 26 #10
Didn't have to; glad I did. Paladin Oct 26 #11
2 years of Latin.. Joinfortmill Oct 26 #12
It even helps when you watch "Jeopardy." Hubby hates it when I get a word right because I took Latin and he didn't. CTyankee Oct 26 #14
And it helps with the grammar structure of yorkster Oct 28 #73
I took Latin in high school, murielm99 Oct 26 #15
Latin was offered at my school and I regret I didn't take it. kimbutgar Oct 26 #16
If you had had Latin it would have been fun in Spanish. CTyankee Oct 26 #18
At least two years of a foreign language was required. cloudbase Oct 26 #17
Depended on... 2naSalit Oct 26 #20
I didn't have to, but chose to Fiendish Thingy Oct 26 #21
I went to secondary school in Paris, St. Cloud to be specific. Polly Hennessey Oct 26 #22
Jesuit high school, required to take two years. grumpyduck Oct 26 #23
I know! I took Latin 60 years ago (I'm mid-80s now) and can still remember it when I see a word I don't quite know but CTyankee Oct 26 #24
I had 4 years of Latin. nt babylonsister Oct 26 #25
I didn't have to, but I did Ocelot II Oct 26 #26
I took Latin in catholic high school 1950s. Srkdqltr Oct 26 #27
No. Elective only. 3 years of it. Small group of us just stuck it out. bullimiami Oct 26 #28
No, but it was offered, and I wish I had. snot Oct 26 #30
Took four years of Latin in HS Dale in Laurel MD Oct 26 #31
4 years montanacowboy Oct 26 #32
I did three years of Latin. Turbineguy Oct 26 #33
Never had the opportunity, and I was disappointed. We had German, French, Spanish. I wanted Latin and Greek. eppur_se_muova Oct 26 #34
Other Languages Squeaky41 Oct 26 #36
It was never an option. surrealAmerican Oct 26 #37
Where were you? I was in Dallas, Tx. CTyankee Oct 26 #38
suburban New York ... surrealAmerican Oct 26 #39
French was mandatory for 1st to 8th grade at my school JoseBalow Oct 26 #40
Yes, the Best ConstanceCee Oct 26 #41
Nah, there was no Latin in my schools. Elessar Zappa Oct 26 #42
Amo, amas, amat mountain grammy Oct 26 #43
Are you kidding? I never even had to take Spanish. LudwigPastorius Oct 26 #44
No, I took 3 years of French Mad_Dem_X Oct 27 #45
Nope. It wasn't even offered. malthaussen Oct 27 #46
2 years in high school - 2 semesters in college rurallib Oct 28 #47
I'm gonna guess that he was a writer. History perhaps. CTyankee Oct 28 #49
A poet actually rurallib Oct 28 #65
Was no longer a requirement for my class WestMichRad Oct 28 #48
It might be fun, actually. CTyankee Oct 28 #50
Three agonizing years northoftheborder Oct 28 #51
The suburb next to mine as a kid could not go to my high school applegrove Oct 28 #52
I went to a Catholic High School; had to take 3 years of latin...church latin. patphil Oct 28 #53
Agricola. Agricolae. Agricolarum. C_U_L8R Oct 28 #54
I wish I had. no_hypocrisy Oct 28 #55
I took it as an elective... samnsara Oct 28 #57
Four years. My dad wanted three lawyers in the family. My lawyer brother and sister never took Latin. I didn't ... marble falls Oct 28 #58
Oh, that's cute! I had to look it up... CTyankee Oct 28 #61
I haven't had a chance to use lazy Latin for years. It's the only one I remember. Just keep in mind: ... marble falls Oct 28 #71
No sakabatou Oct 28 #59
I took Latin too, 3 years. It helped me learn how to study as we had home work every day. brush Oct 28 #60
It was an elective in high school, but maybe I should've taken it. catbyte Oct 28 #62
Yes, so did my millennial son arlyellowdog Oct 28 #63
My Latin experience Cartoonist Oct 28 #64
I took it as an elective rockbluff botanist Oct 28 #66
nope. AllaN01Bear Oct 28 #67
I took Latin willingly IbogaProject Oct 28 #68
No we started in 4th grade gopiscrap Oct 28 #69
I did not in high school Traildogbob Oct 28 #70
In Junior High, 9th grade, it was called Development of Modern English (DME). I quite enjoyed it. c-rational Oct 28 #72

eppur_se_muova

(37,392 posts)
35. Well, you win this thread. But maybe a little Creole might be helpful in this election year.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 03:12 PM
Oct 26

At least enough to read the chart showing where the pins go.

debm55

(35,976 posts)
2. Latin wasn't offered in my school. Rich took it at his HS in Boston because he had plans on being a doctor.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 01:07 PM
Oct 26

Silent Type

(6,657 posts)
3. I did not take Latin, but had a study hall in a Latin class taught by a man who looked like Danny Devito as a monk.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 01:07 PM
Oct 26

I rarely got to study because he was so interesting and funny. Later in life, I wished I had taken Latin seriously because it is used so much in medical, legal, etc., lexicon.

BlueKota

(3,643 posts)
4. No.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 01:08 PM
Oct 26

I was allowed to take Spanish without out it. I know a few phrases because of its use in history and law.

drray23

(7,962 posts)
5. I was raised in France
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 01:13 PM
Oct 26

And went to a private catholic school run by nuns and monks. We had to take greek and Latin in addition of two other foreign languages ( in my case English and German) starting at age 8 all the way to 18 when I graduated high school. There was a heavy emphasis on humanities, classical literature and so on.

Interestingly enough even thought it was run by the catholic church, it was not that heavy on Bible studies or the like, we had 2 hours a week of religious studies.

Back then, well to do families would send their kids to institutions like this because it was the best education you could get. My parents were not particularly religious, yet that is where I ended up.







cachukis

(2,666 posts)
29. Declension.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 02:42 PM
Oct 26

My partner in high school could translate it right from the book. That was my competition. I could get the gist, but not the nuance.
We were both altar boys.
Very helpful in my anatomy and physiology studies. Would not trade the experience even though it was forced on me by my mother. She forced me to turn out in her image and likeness. Failed at that, but turned out fairly well.

yorkster

(2,405 posts)
19. You should take something for that....
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 02:01 PM
Oct 26


Actually, had Latin for 4 yrs. Helped with English, French, Italian vocab. Love languages.

CTyankee

(65,020 posts)
9. My question is: would you been better off in law school if you had taken Latin earlier in your education?
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 01:27 PM
Oct 26

rsdsharp

(10,116 posts)
13. Probably not. Reading and writing in Latin wasn't required.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 01:35 PM
Oct 26

Dropping “res ipsa loquitur” into a brief doesn’t really require anything like fluency.

RussellCattle

(1,760 posts)
56. Yes, partial credit indeed. I was the only one in my environmental law class that knew what sylvaculture was.
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 12:19 PM
Oct 28

Tree farming.

BoomaofBandM

(1,922 posts)
10. Took it in 7th grade. I don't remember why and i remember none of it.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 01:28 PM
Oct 26

Partly old age but mostly I have never been able to memorize very well.

Joinfortmill

(16,386 posts)
12. 2 years of Latin..
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 01:32 PM
Oct 26

For decades I could determine the root of every English word, even the ones I had never heard before. What a gift it was.

CTyankee

(65,020 posts)
14. It even helps when you watch "Jeopardy." Hubby hates it when I get a word right because I took Latin and he didn't.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 01:36 PM
Oct 26

Then I cackle and he doesn't like my cackle, says it's obnoxious.

yorkster

(2,405 posts)
73. And it helps with the grammar structure of
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 05:28 PM
Oct 28

English, the Romance languages and German. Verrry interresting, no?

murielm99

(31,433 posts)
15. I took Latin in high school,
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 01:50 PM
Oct 26

and I loved it! It is true that it helps with English spelling, vocabulary and writing. It helps that I had a great teacher. She had character as well as teaching ability. I learned study skills from her as well as Latin.

She married a widower who had a mentally challenged daughter. He ignored the girl and beat my teacher. She left him and took custody of the girl. At the time, special ed. was not required for high school kids, but it was available. My teacher made sure our high school had a program. The kids were mainstreamed in some classes, where possible. We got to know them and treat them like human beings. Students were bussed in from our community and nearby communities. They could stay in the program until they were 21.

My teacher put her stepdaughter in things like 4-H and home ec. She taught her life skills. She did the same thing for her students, in a gentle, persuasive way.

I ran into them about ten years later, in a restaurant. I did not recognize the girl at first when I saw her ordering. She seemed like a young person who was a bit odd, but not mentally challenged. I hope that makes sense.

Maybe my teacher was an angel. She touched and changed so many lives.

kimbutgar

(23,265 posts)
16. Latin was offered at my school and I regret I didn't take it.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 01:55 PM
Oct 26

I took a Spanish class in my sophomore year with this awful teacher and it made me not want to take Latin.

CTyankee

(65,020 posts)
18. If you had had Latin it would have been fun in Spanish.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 02:00 PM
Oct 26

Late in life (after college and 2 degrees) I took a community college course in Italian because I loved the language so much. I really loved doing and as a resident of New Haven I could take it for free.

2naSalit

(92,669 posts)
20. Depended on...
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 02:05 PM
Oct 26

Where I lived. On the East coast, yes, on the West coast no. Though I did start French in the second grade in Maine, Latin came later but etymology was taught within the vocabulary lessons so we knew where all the words came from. And we were, in the East, exposed to multiple cultures most of the time so it wasn't unusual to hear foreign languages at any time anywhere in public. You could pick up some of them just from the neighborhood.

I have always wanted to take an extended stay in France. Such a rich culture with fabulous food and wine.

Fiendish Thingy

(18,510 posts)
21. I didn't have to, but chose to
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 02:06 PM
Oct 26

I took Spanish all four years, and Latin for two years.

I agree it helped my vocabulary.

Polly Hennessey

(7,453 posts)
22. I went to secondary school in Paris, St. Cloud to be specific.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 02:16 PM
Oct 26

So happy we had to take it. It comes in handy when you least expect it to. Kinda like algebra and geometry and chemistry. Who knew!

grumpyduck

(6,650 posts)
23. Jesuit high school, required to take two years.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 02:21 PM
Oct 26

I didn't see all that much use for it at the time, but was glad I took it when I went to England after my second year in college and found I could read most of the old Latin inscriptions on monuments.

To this day I often go, oh yeah, I can read that.

CTyankee

(65,020 posts)
24. I know! I took Latin 60 years ago (I'm mid-80s now) and can still remember it when I see a word I don't quite know but
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 02:25 PM
Oct 26

can figure out based on the latinate nature of it.

Ocelot II

(120,825 posts)
26. I didn't have to, but I did
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 02:30 PM
Oct 26

because my dad insisted that you can't be a properly educated person if you didn't learn Latin. Pretty old-fashioned, I guess, but I'm glad I got talked into it.

Srkdqltr

(7,659 posts)
27. I took Latin in catholic high school 1950s.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 02:34 PM
Oct 26

Inside the book i wrote: as we all did: Latin is a dead language, dead as it could be. It killed the Ancient Romans and now it's killing me.

snot

(10,702 posts)
30. No, but it was offered, and I wish I had.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 02:48 PM
Oct 26

Or rather, I wish Latin as well as other languages were taught at younger ages, when I think they're easier to learn.

Dale in Laurel MD

(751 posts)
31. Took four years of Latin in HS
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 02:54 PM
Oct 26

I was brought up pretty much bilingual English/French. In college I branched out and took Welsh.

Turbineguy

(38,373 posts)
33. I did three years of Latin.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 02:56 PM
Oct 26

Because I was thinking of studying life sciences. The first instructor looked like a Roman Centurion, except for the toga. My second instructor was from Texas who spoke Latin with a heavy Texas accent.

Quintus, let us proceed to the Forum! The Romans never walked anywhere, they proceeded. Also, soldiers were always sticking their gladia's into their vagina's. These translations at age 13 stay with you.

eppur_se_muova

(37,392 posts)
34. Never had the opportunity, and I was disappointed. We had German, French, Spanish. I wanted Latin and Greek.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 03:06 PM
Oct 26

I'm *really* surprised about the Latin prerequisite for other languages. I don't see it as all that helpful. (Yes, I know they're related, but the differences are important -- no articles in Latin is a biggie.)

Latin and Greek vocabulary are useful in any science, but knowledge of the grammar isn't much help. So I took one semester of Greek in college and figured that was enough. A handbook of Latin and Greek etymologies in science does me more good than practicing all the rules for first and second aorist verbs. Still fun to be able to read the Greek alphabet (alpha, beta, gamma is where that name comes from) when I'm seeing old coins, murals, papyri etc. in photos and on TV, even if I don't always know what the words mean; on coins the writing is mostly names of rulers easily recognized as such.

I'm really not much of a linguist, or even a polyglot (which is what most people really mean when they say "linguist" ), but I do have one bit of advice for anyone who wants to study languages: If you're curious about a language which uses a non-Roman or modified Roman alphabet (you've probably never seen an "English" alphabet; "Modern Roman" is what we use to write English), start studying the alphabet(s) or ideographs that language uses before you begin any formal study of grammar, syntax, etc. Once you've got even a partial grasp of the alphabet you can start building up your ability to recognize words and, simultaneously, your vocabulary. (This kinda assumes you are more interested in the language as written than spoken, though.) If you're learning a language for travel, this is especially helpful, since you can read maps, road signs, storefront signs, etc. even when there's no one around to ask. (Bonus: reading protest signs and banners on TV news. A glimpse of a fraction of a second is all I need to catch a sign saying ПУТИН НЕТ!)

Squeaky41

(250 posts)
36. Other Languages
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 03:22 PM
Oct 26

Took 2 years of Latin and 3 years of French. Got an A in each. Idioms difficult.Eaves dropping on local Canadian-French in Maine was fun.

Same great teacher for them.

Self studied Russian. Alphabet is a bear.

surrealAmerican

(11,482 posts)
37. It was never an option.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 03:28 PM
Oct 26

I suspect you went to much better schools than I did. Junior High offered French, Spanish, and German. High School offered those three and Italian (we had a large Italian-American student population).

surrealAmerican

(11,482 posts)
39. suburban New York ...
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 03:35 PM
Oct 26

... but it was the 1970's, and we would spend every few years "on austerity", which meant cutbacks to a lot of programs, and increases to class sizes.

JoseBalow

(5,141 posts)
40. French was mandatory for 1st to 8th grade at my school
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 03:44 PM
Oct 26

After that you could add or switch to Spanish, Latin or German.

ConstanceCee

(333 posts)
41. Yes, the Best
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 04:04 PM
Oct 26

Latin was offered, not mandatory, at my high school. The Latin teacher I had for two years is up there with the good teachers, K-grad school, I had that can be counted on one hand. I often say that in high school, I learned to sew, to type, and learned Latin.

malthaussen

(17,672 posts)
46. Nope. It wasn't even offered.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 12:23 PM
Oct 27

You needed two years of a foreign language to pass college prep, but the choices were limited to German, French, or Spanish. This was in a public school district in suburban Philly, late 60's/early 70s's.

-- Mal

rurallib

(63,196 posts)
47. 2 years in high school - 2 semesters in college
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 10:16 AM
Oct 28

Anybody else here ever heard of a dude named Catullus?

rurallib

(63,196 posts)
65. A poet actually
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 01:00 PM
Oct 28

Pretty sexual and known for his allusions to sex.
I could never actually read him. But one day in desperation I found a translation in the U's library and cheated my way to a C

WestMichRad

(1,809 posts)
48. Was no longer a requirement for my class
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 10:26 AM
Oct 28

But my (several years) older brother had to take it. Was still on offer to my class, but I declined. Years later, wish I had taken it- am trying to learn some plant taxonomy, it would be a great help!

applegrove

(123,113 posts)
52. The suburb next to mine as a kid could not go to my high school
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 12:10 PM
Oct 28

that had a great academic reputation. So all the kids from that neighborhood would say they wanted to study latin to get in (most other highschools did not teach it). I'm talking about almost a third of the whole high school.

patphil

(6,941 posts)
53. I went to a Catholic High School; had to take 3 years of latin...church latin.
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 12:11 PM
Oct 28

The pronunciation of church Latin is different from classical Latin. But, the study of structure and sentence construction did help some with my English.
A lot of the English language has it's roots in Latin, especially in science and medicine.

marble falls

(62,047 posts)
58. Four years. My dad wanted three lawyers in the family. My lawyer brother and sister never took Latin. I didn't ...
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 12:24 PM
Oct 28

... become a lawyer.

My advice: Semper ubi sub ubi.

marble falls

(62,047 posts)
71. I haven't had a chance to use lazy Latin for years. It's the only one I remember. Just keep in mind: ...
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 02:15 PM
Oct 28

... All of Gaul 'est in tres partes', and before crossing the Rubicon: Look both ways.

brush

(57,482 posts)
60. I took Latin too, 3 years. It helped me learn how to study as we had home work every day.
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 12:31 PM
Oct 28

I wish I had taken Spanish too as I grew up in the southwest with many native Spanish speakers I could practice my Spanish with.

catbyte

(35,765 posts)
62. It was an elective in high school, but maybe I should've taken it.
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 12:50 PM
Oct 28

I took Spanish in high school and French in college, but my brain kept mixing them up. I'd start out speaking French, then my brain would short circuit, and I'd finish the sentence in Spanish.

Needless to say, I suck at any language but English to my sorrow.

I can't manage a stick shift either -- maybe they're in the same area of the brain.

Stupid brain.

arlyellowdog

(1,429 posts)
63. Yes, so did my millennial son
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 12:54 PM
Oct 28

It was required in my 1960s Catholic school so I did it. My son was really good in Math and science, but struggled with Spanish. He switched to Latin for the required years of a language. Do either of us remember any Latin? No, but then I don’t remember any French either. It’s a nice alternative for those of us born without an ear for languages.

Cartoonist

(7,530 posts)
64. My Latin experience
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 01:00 PM
Oct 28

In third grade at a Catholic school, I had the opportunity to become an altar boy. While we didn't have to learn Latin, we had to memorize certain phrases. I was no good at that so I didn't advance.
In fourth grade they went to an all English mass. Then I was no longer able to apply. Talk about a close call.

rockbluff botanist

(360 posts)
66. I took it as an elective
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 01:26 PM
Oct 28

I took 2 years of Latin in high school (74-75-76), even though it was considered a "dead language".

Taking this language served me well. I am a biologist/botanist and Latin is quite alive in my profession. Plant nomenclature is all in Latin.

IbogaProject

(3,647 posts)
68. I took Latin willingly
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 01:38 PM
Oct 28

In a couple of grades, my teacher finally realized we weren't absorbing it and moved to writing out details of a draft he had of Latin sourced phrases and details about those uses. It has been very informative to me to have learned that. I wish I had pushed him to get in published it would've made a great paperback reference.

Traildogbob

(9,972 posts)
70. I did not in high school
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 01:59 PM
Oct 28

But after 4 years of Science in Wildlife and Forest Management, memorizing literally hundreds of animal, as well as hundreds of plant Latin names, because of Binomial Nomenclature classification seems I did. After graduating and teaching all those names to college students for a career, I always thought if I had taken it in HS, all those Latin names may have been easier, knowing what they meant as a descriptive word for the species when given the Latin name as genus and species.

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