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cyclonefence

(4,873 posts)
5. I have always been creeped out by
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 11:10 AM
Oct 2

I love little pussy
Her coat is so warm
And if I don't hurt her
She'll do me no harm.

She sits by the fire
And I give her some food
And pussy will love me
Because I am good.

What kind of demon cat are we talking about here? "She'll do me no harm," huh?

eppur_se_muova

(37,500 posts)
10. Oh, Darling, please believe me, I'll never do you no harm
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 12:12 PM
Oct 2

Believe me when I tell you, I'll never do you no harm



Am I the only one who was creeped out by that song ?

eppur_se_muova

(37,500 posts)
8. "Peter, Peter, Pumpkin Eater" was based on a real murder case.
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 12:09 PM
Oct 2
Peter, Peter, pumpkin eater {actually, he was a pumpkin grower, but that wouldn't rhyme as easily}
had a wife but couldn't keep her. {she was unfaithful to him and engaged in dalliances with other men}
So he put her in a pumpkin shell {her dismembered corpse, that is -- an unusually large pumpkin}
and there he kept her very well ! {no more straying after that!}

eppur_se_muova

(37,500 posts)
12. Well, that's one interpretation. But there are others.
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 12:51 PM
Oct 2

Many nursery rhymes have dark stories behind them, but there's usually no hard (i.e. written) evidence one way or the other as to their original meaning. There are several similar rhymes, possibly precursors to PPPE, mostly about murdered women, so this one is maybe a little more convincing than others.

A less grisly interpretation assumes that "pumpkin shell" refers to a chastity belt. With all the historical variations in such folk terms, seldom committed to writing, it's hard for even the experts to be sure.

"The Cat and the Fiddle" seems like nonsense to modern ears, but apparently it's about court gossip -- "the Old Dog" refers to the king, "The dish ran away with the spoon" refers to an elopement, etc.; "The cow jumped over the Moon" was an old expression for "the impossible has happened", sort of like "Hell has frozen over".

To complicate matters further, the modern versions of nursery rhymes are often different from the originals, where the originals are known. There's always the possibility that an old rhyme could be changed slightly to become a 'coded' version of recent events, giving them an interpretation for which they weren't originally intended. And many were "cleaned up" by later, more squeamish/bluenosed, compilers. There have even been some recent "politically correct" versions of old rhymes.

13. The Red Shoes
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 01:15 PM
Oct 2

Hans Christian Anderson's spooky tale of shoes that won't come off until the feet are chopped off, but the shoes with feet in them still dance away.

Niagara

(9,705 posts)
14. Lizzie Borden took an ax and gave her mother forty whacks ....
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 01:24 PM
Oct 2

When she saw what she had done, She gave her father forty-one.

Oh wait....


Different Drummer

(8,645 posts)
15. "Hansel and Gretel" has been made into a horror film, starring (among others)...
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 02:59 PM
Oct 2

Dee Wallace Stone. If memory serves, she played the witch that wanted to eat the title characters.

Niagara

(9,705 posts)
17. There's a 2020 version of Gretel & Hansel that impressed me
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 05:13 PM
Oct 2

I'm into these type of movies, the weirder the better.



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