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Save money? Get a library card and access your local papers on its website instead of paying for a subscription. (Original Post) Floyd R. Turbo Sep 24 OP
Local papers depend on subscriptions to survive. TomSlick Sep 24 #1
My local is owned by a right wing shit bag. Libraries pay thousands for the right to provide access to Floyd R. Turbo Sep 24 #2
The local paper in my home town starved out years ago. TomSlick Sep 24 #5
Then subscribe if it pleases you. It's your money. Floyd R. Turbo Sep 24 #7
Indeed it is. TomSlick Sep 24 #11
Wow, what a back-handed (and completely uncalled-for) slap at Penzey's.* niyad Sep 25 #14
I intended no slap at Penseys, either back-handed or overt. TomSlick Sep 25 #18
I am so glad that you did not mean that remark as a slap, but I trust that you niyad Sep 25 #20
I got it--but admit I took me a few seconds--then I chuckled and thought of all the riversedge Sep 26 #27
I have access to 2 decent print papers Easterncedar Sep 26 #30
The library subscribes to tem LearnedHand Sep 24 #12
Here we have the Tallahassee Democrat csziggy Sep 25 #19
If someone has to speak up True Dough Sep 24 #13
You are a truly stand-up individual! niyad Sep 25 #15
Well, if we're being perfectly honest True Dough Sep 25 #16
SNORT!!! niyad Sep 25 #17
Our local fishwrap is completely reichwing. There is absolutely NO WAY niyad Sep 24 #9
😬 Floyd R. Turbo Sep 24 #10
I live within the Treaty Land of the local tribe, so I get a Tribal Library card. multigraincracker Sep 24 #3
Sweet! Floyd R. Turbo Sep 24 #4
Lots of benefits. multigraincracker Sep 24 #6
Cool! Floyd R. Turbo Sep 24 #8
I did that for the magazines I like... malthaussen Sep 26 #21
😁 Floyd R. Turbo Sep 26 #22
I use mine for audiobooks while I'm working Luciferous Sep 26 #23
🤗 Floyd R. Turbo Sep 26 #25
Not Here ProfessorGAC Sep 26 #24
Bummer! Floyd R. Turbo Sep 26 #26
Good advice. underpants Sep 26 #28
🤗 Floyd R. Turbo Sep 26 #29

Floyd R. Turbo

(28,904 posts)
2. My local is owned by a right wing shit bag. Libraries pay thousands for the right to provide access to
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 08:19 PM
Sep 24

newspapers.

TomSlick

(11,890 posts)
5. The local paper in my home town starved out years ago.
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 08:31 PM
Sep 24

All that is left is the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, the most misnamed media outlet in the country.

Nevertheless, it is the only state-wide paper. There is no other source doing local investigative reporting. There is no other source of local news. It's not half a loaf. It's barely the heel of a loaf but it's better than no local news at all.

TomSlick

(11,890 posts)
11. Indeed it is.
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 08:51 PM
Sep 24

A budget is a moral plan. We pay for what we value. I support businesses that share my views on democracy. (Nobody really needs that much Pinzeys spices.) I donate to politicians who will protect the Constitution and individual rights.

I value a free press and local news and will spend my money consistent with my values.

niyad

(119,931 posts)
14. Wow, what a back-handed (and completely uncalled-for) slap at Penzey's.*
Wed Sep 25, 2024, 08:20 AM
Sep 25

"We pay for what we value" includes those of us who support non-politicians who share our values, and support liberal/humanitarian causes.

"Does it ever get cold up there on the moral high ground?"-- Lady Violet Crawley

*And, just for the record, some of us DO need that many Penzey's spices, regardless of what the orange creature said about them.

TomSlick

(11,890 posts)
18. I intended no slap at Penseys, either back-handed or overt.
Wed Sep 25, 2024, 12:34 PM
Sep 25

We're big fans.

All I was saying that we buy a lot from Penzeys because of their support for Democrats.

My post said: "I support businesses that share my views on democracy. (Nobody really needs that much Pinzeys spices.)" I don't see any way to construe that as a slap. No one needs the amount of Pinzeys spices, towels, etc. we have because we support Pinzeys.

niyad

(119,931 posts)
20. I am so glad that you did not mean that remark as a slap, but I trust that you
Wed Sep 25, 2024, 04:46 PM
Sep 25

can understand how it might be taken that way.

And, given your support, I do undertand what you mean. I had to talk to myself very sternly this past Sunday about the latest promotion, even as I was telling myself it was NOT too early to start on the holiday gifts.

riversedge

(73,132 posts)
27. I got it--but admit I took me a few seconds--then I chuckled and thought of all the
Thu Sep 26, 2024, 08:07 PM
Sep 26

spices I do not use--but should.

So, I actually go up and wrote a note and put it on the cupboard--use some nutmeg for breakfast coffee.

Easterncedar

(3,524 posts)
30. I have access to 2 decent print papers
Thu Sep 26, 2024, 08:43 PM
Sep 26

Last edited Thu Sep 26, 2024, 09:16 PM - Edit history (1)

I like subscribing, but think encouraging folks to read them through their library is fine, too.
Folks should read the news!

csziggy

(34,189 posts)
19. Here we have the Tallahassee Democrat
Wed Sep 25, 2024, 01:55 PM
Sep 25

That does not cover local news themselves other than FSU football. Even before Knight-Ridder bought them out, they got their state government news from news services rather than send their own reporters down the street to cover it. Once Gannett bought the paper, it didn't improve.

While I was in college, I delivered papers for them. Then my husband worked for them for a while. Since then, we have not gotten the paper once - their employment practices are shit and the paper isn't worth lining a rat's cage with.

niyad

(119,931 posts)
9. Our local fishwrap is completely reichwing. There is absolutely NO WAY
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 08:36 PM
Sep 24

that I will give them even a nickel. I won't even read their bs at the library.

multigraincracker

(34,075 posts)
3. I live within the Treaty Land of the local tribe, so I get a Tribal Library card.
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 08:21 PM
Sep 24

Good at all libraries in my county. Love to look at local historical documents for this area. Plus all the magazines that would cost a fortune to subscribe to. All free.

multigraincracker

(34,075 posts)
6. Lots of benefits.
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 08:34 PM
Sep 24

On my side of our street, we have the tribal award winning fire department, they even have large water tanker trucks. Just across the street is the township volunteer department that takes forever. Protected by the tribal police and I guess they are Federal Officers. I support and respect them. Not all of the locals do. They have a great cultural museum near by too. I ever donated an artifact I found that they excepted and thanked me.

malthaussen

(17,672 posts)
21. I did that for the magazines I like...
Thu Sep 26, 2024, 02:38 PM
Sep 26

... but wouldn't you know it, the library doesn't have online editions of them. 5000 choices, and no Economist or Atlantic.

I bet you thought I was talking about those other magazines.

-- Mal

ProfessorGAC

(69,888 posts)
24. Not Here
Thu Sep 26, 2024, 06:01 PM
Sep 26

The website doesn't have news links, even for card holders, or what they call patrons.
There's a lot of news access for the computers for use at the library, but we have to go there.

underpants

(186,651 posts)
28. Good advice.
Thu Sep 26, 2024, 08:30 PM
Sep 26

Our local paper, the Richmond Times-Dispatch, thinks it’s the monolith it used to be. I found an article I really wanted to be the other day - paywall - so I ran it through the archive. Nope. They demand payment. No free 2-3 articles a month like actual newspapers.

I used to have a subscription. Their “from Wire reports” were upside down. Opinion first. The lead paragraph was second to last.

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