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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsThe Coronation of Charles III is a religious service.
Charles will be crowned head of the Church of England, divinely appointed by God.
If you are watching the service , keep in mind that this is the very thing rejected in the First Amendment: Henry VIII's State Religion.
debm55
(60,612 posts)speak easy
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(12,598 posts)regnaD kciN
(27,639 posts)The title is supreme governor, not head. This change was made during the reign of Elizabeth I, symbolizing that the monarch was the in charge of administering the operation of the C of E, but without the authority to define new dogmas or doctrines; that matter was reserved for the bishops of the church itself.
Plus, Henry VIIIs state religion is deceptive. Before the C of E split from Rome under Henry, it certainly had a state religion of Roman Catholicism.
And, although it certainly isnt your intent, you are unwittingly echoing a talking point of modern-day Christian Nationalism: that the purpose of the First Amendment was to free the country from mushy, liberal Anglicanism, so true, Bible-based Christianity could arise and become the foundation of our nation.
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(12,598 posts)or Governor for that matter?
The Governor of a State is not the head of the executive?
Effete Snob
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I believe in government by whomever has the silliest thing on their head.
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(12,598 posts)Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)But you can send her over to my place later if shes still around.
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(12,598 posts)Oh wait? What does the King make of that? Head of the Church, he knows the will of God.
UTUSN
(77,795 posts)speak easy
(12,598 posts)UTUSN
(77,795 posts)I gotta know what peeps are talking about.
wnylib
(26,009 posts)there's an interesting part of American history on that.
Puritan colonists in America did not seek to establish religious freedom in their colonies. They established religious freedom for themselves only. All people of other faiths were driven from the colonies, or imprisoned, or executed if caught for a third time.
Ironically, it was the British who enforced religious tolerance on the colonies. When Britain sent soldiers to protect the colonies from invasion attacks by the French, the colonial governments in New England refused to let them have their own churches until the British government forced them to allow it.
But, colonial governments still charged everyone a tax, regardless of membership, for the maintenance of the Puritan church and for the salaries of the ministers. Only full members of the Puritan church had voting rights in colonial times. Connecticut was still doing that after the US was established until ordered to stop.
Our nation's founders learned from their experiences right here in America, not just from Europe, since we had a colony established for Catholics (Maryland), and most of the southern colonies had Anglican churches. Several Baptists had arrived in New England and there were Quakers in PA and NJ.
To accommodate everyone, including the Deist founders, freedom of religion was put into the first amendment.
Bev54
(13,431 posts)As his Mother was the head of the Church of England. I don't see your point.
regnaD kciN
(27,639 posts)they were the governor, not the head. The last British monarch named head of the Church in England was Edward VI, Henry VIIIs son, who died in 1553.
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(12,598 posts)King Charles III's coronation
"The palace describes it as "a solemn religious service" and it acknowledges the king's role as both the head of state and head of the Church of England. The king is the Church's Supreme Governor."
https://abc7chicago.com/coronation-schedule-of-events-crowning-king-charles-british-monarchy-queen-camilla/13212457/
Obviously the palace does not have a cue
Bev54
(13,431 posts)Celerity
(54,407 posts)nothing more boring (and often, historically, also nothing more deadly) than arguments over religious claptrap, quote often of a pendantic nature
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(12,598 posts)yes the First Amendment is That important to me
LudwigPastorius
(14,724 posts)...followed closely by organized, hierarchical religions.
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(12,598 posts)udner the cover of law