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Rhiannon12866

(222,072 posts)
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 08:59 PM Oct 2023

Raskin floats Liz Cheney, Mitt Romney, Angus King as consensus speaker options - All In - MSNBC



Rep. Jamie Raskin says former Rep. Liz Cheney, Sen. Mitt Romney, and Sen. Angus King have been floated among Democrats as options for a potential consensus Speaker of the House. - Aired on 10/17/2023.


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Raskin floats Liz Cheney, Mitt Romney, Angus King as consensus speaker options - All In - MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Oct 2023 OP
Poke em in the eye Jamie BOSSHOG Oct 2023 #1
Suggesting Romney confused me, but like you said, that may have been the intent Rhiannon12866 Oct 2023 #2
Victoria Spartz R, voted for Thomas Massie of KY Captain Zero Oct 2023 #3
From what we've heard, a lot of Republicans voted for anyone but Jordan Rhiannon12866 Oct 2023 #4
Massie is a complete a-hole Bev54 Oct 2023 #7
Oh ok. I'll trust what you say over Captain Zero Oct 2023 #19
Massie Diamond_Dog Oct 2023 #5
Good Grief! A vociferous NO from me... Rhiannon12866 Oct 2023 #8
That would be a big no on Cheney and I would be calling dem reps to make that clear. Bev54 Oct 2023 #6
The Republicans have serious resentments against both Cheney and Romney Rhiannon12866 Oct 2023 #9
Yes and while it would bring some satisfaction to piss them off, Cheney would be a big mistake. Bev54 Oct 2023 #10
They'd never vote for her or anyone who was on the J6 Committee. Rhiannon12866 Oct 2023 #12
Hakeem Jeffries onecaliberal Oct 2023 #11
+100 Rhiannon12866 Oct 2023 #13
A girl can dream.. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #14
He did get more votes than Jordan. Rhiannon12866 Oct 2023 #15
Right now Id vote for bo-bo the chimp , about the same damn thing ! bobby202 Oct 2023 #16
At least he didn't support the insurrection. Rhiannon12866 Oct 2023 #17
Well stated ! bobby202 Oct 2023 #18
I fear that Jordan will eventually get the votes, like McCarthy did. CentralMass Oct 2023 #20
That would be the worst possible outcome. Rhiannon12866 Oct 2023 #21
Given the choices, or rather lack thereof, Abolishinist Oct 2023 #22
The only thing is that Romney is currently very unpopular with Republicans, as is Liz Cheney Rhiannon12866 Oct 2023 #23
Well, as I understand it, all he would need would be 7 votes from the R's Abolishinist Oct 2023 #24
Well, he does have experience, but he's also a Senator. Rhiannon12866 Oct 2023 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Abolishinist Oct 2023 #26
The Senator part is what I'm not sure of. Abolishinist Oct 2023 #27
From what he's said, I'm not sure if Romney would be willing to put himself out there Rhiannon12866 Oct 2023 #28

BOSSHOG

(39,836 posts)
1. Poke em in the eye Jamie
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 09:02 PM
Oct 2023

Love it. The Neanderthals will get so outraged and befuddled in their caucus that the next speaker will be Leader Jeffries.

Have fun Jamie.

Madame Speaker Cheney? Oh the lunatic angst.

Rhiannon12866

(222,072 posts)
2. Suggesting Romney confused me, but like you said, that may have been the intent
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 09:07 PM
Oct 2023

I was hoping for Jeffries when he got votes during the 15th vote for McCarthy. And he did get more votes than Jordan this time around. I also think Raskin is suggesting anyone but Jordan.

Captain Zero

(7,505 posts)
3. Victoria Spartz R, voted for Thomas Massie of KY
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 09:10 PM
Oct 2023

I looked him up. He's been around a while.
I don't think he would be anti-science or anti-fact. I'm not sure where he was on insurrection stance.

He's from a district that includes suburbs of both Louisville and Cincinnati. He's s not a dummy from looking at his education and background.

But where was he on the insurrection?
I'm too lazy to figure it out. I admit. Haha.

Victoria can be a total bizarro, but maybe once she's right about something.

Rhiannon12866

(222,072 posts)
4. From what we've heard, a lot of Republicans voted for anyone but Jordan
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 09:14 PM
Oct 2023

Which does not bode well for vote #2. And I have to agree that just about anyone would be better, anyone who doesn't take orders from TFG.

Rhiannon12866

(222,072 posts)
8. Good Grief! A vociferous NO from me...
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 09:21 PM
Oct 2023

But then my embarrassment of a Rep. gave the nomination speech for Jordan.

Rhiannon12866

(222,072 posts)
12. They'd never vote for her or anyone who was on the J6 Committee.
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 09:40 PM
Oct 2023

Bennie Thompson, chairman of that committee, would be a good choice, but he'd be disqualified by Republicans for the same reason. Hakeem Jeffries would be the best. And, so far, Jeffries has more support than Jordan.

Rhiannon12866

(222,072 posts)
21. That would be the worst possible outcome.
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 11:57 PM
Oct 2023

We know that he won't be getting any Democratic votes and numerous Republicans voted for anyone else. That needs to continue. And Hakeem Jeffries got more votes than Jordan did.

Abolishinist

(1,961 posts)
22. Given the choices, or rather lack thereof,
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 12:05 AM
Oct 2023

I have to say that Romney would be my preference, all things considered.

Rhiannon12866

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23. The only thing is that Romney is currently very unpopular with Republicans, as is Liz Cheney
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 12:14 AM
Oct 2023

Romney isn't running for reelection after the threats he's witnessed by fellow Republicans. He's said he wanted to vote in favor of the second TFG impeachment, but warned by follow Republicans that he'd be putting himself and his family in danger. And, of course, Liz Cheney as voted out by fellow Republicans after serving on the January 6th Committee.

Abolishinist

(1,961 posts)
24. Well, as I understand it, all he would need would be 7 votes from the R's
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 12:40 AM
Oct 2023

if all 200 Dems voted for him. And the fact that he isn't running fore reelection is a plus, i.e., he's in it for two years and out, no further political ambitions. Regardless of what one thinks of him, he's not an election denier, and IMO puts our country above his personal ambitions. Time to get back to the business of running our country.

Rhiannon12866

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25. Well, he does have experience, but he's also a Senator.
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 12:42 AM
Oct 2023

And he has alienated his fellow Republicans by calling them out.

Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #25)

Abolishinist

(1,961 posts)
27. The Senator part is what I'm not sure of.
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 12:53 AM
Oct 2023

One does not have to be in the House to be the Speaker, so my initial thought is that a Senator could fill that position. And if one of my faves, Mr. Raskin, put it out there, then regardless of whether or not he was being forthright, he must have known that this could be possible. And if we only need seven to turn the tide, I would have to think they're out there! And OMG, talk about taking it to the reich-wing Repukes!

Rhiannon12866

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28. From what he's said, I'm not sure if Romney would be willing to put himself out there
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 01:02 AM
Oct 2023

And we've already heard that the wives of Republicans who did not vote for Jordan have received threats - which is what Romney was warned about. But I agree he'd be better than Jordan. And I'm not sure if Jamie Raskin was completely serious. However, I agree with you that he's among our very best.

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