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(3,308 posts)Rhiannon12866
(255,595 posts)rampartc
(5,835 posts)or otherwise fall in trump's favor.
it is no better than 50/50 that we can beat trump, and an easy 30% of the country fabtasize biden to be some kind of commie dictator and themselves as the heroes of "red dawn" (the worst of the reagan era propaganda.)
what the holy hell is wrong with this country ?????????
Rhiannon12866
(255,595 posts)But even half or a third of them should result in a prison sentence. I can't believe he's actually running to lead the government that he attempted to overthrow!
rampartc
(5,835 posts)who has never had a pet, or a friend, or a woman who loved him for anything except $$$$$$$$$$$$.
and his party of traitors love him because he hates us as badly as they do.
how can this possibly end well??????
sorry rhia. hate night panic attack. i really don't see how 1 cult juror (in georgia!) of 12 can be avoided for the mistrial, and as we should know, if 1 charge of 91 hangs a jury, the "total vindication" victory tour will sweep trump to the white house.
Rhiannon12866
(255,595 posts)People tend to forget that he actually lost twice! It's just that he lost so overwhelmingly the second time that the Electoral College didn't matter. Not to mention, I read right here that it was the Republicans who were the major victims of Covid since they listened to TFG. And how many trials is he facing?? The "hush money" payments in Manhattan, the classified documents case in Florida, the illegal business practices case in New York - and then Jack Smith's biggest case, his attempt to overthrow the government, as well as the upcoming case in Georgia. I understand your panic, I can't stand thinking about it all, either, let alone the constant news about him since 2016 - but the professional prosecutors are on the job, Fani Willis is determined, but Jack Smith has put away war criminals.
rampartc
(5,835 posts)the clock is ticking.
what we really need today is a gag order.
Rhiannon12866
(255,595 posts)And he has done exactly what he signed off on saying he wouldn't do.
Rhiannon12866
(255,595 posts)Back then, who could possibly have imagined that he'd have come around - supported the TFG impeachments - and that his daughter would have been instrumental on the January 6th Committee which provided the majority of evidence against TFG - as well as those who testified were Republicans.
rampartc
(5,835 posts)but i also maintain a healthy respect for poisonous reptiles.
Rhiannon12866
(255,595 posts)wnylib
(26,025 posts)With so many criminal charges against Trump in 4 different indictments, the odds are that there will be at least 1 conviction.
Captain Zero
(8,905 posts)I guess all they really do have are HIS voters?
Rhiannon12866
(255,595 posts)But they have to know that most of what he proposes is illegal, would not be popular and would only benefit himself. So many have left the party and are pretty vehement about it, like The Lincoln Project and those who testified for the January 6th Committee. And he got fewer votes both times, but he lost 2020 by a landslide. What does it take??
marble falls
(71,946 posts)... have admitted to them.
rampartc
(5,835 posts)not get out of jury duty only to gain the favor and approval of dear leader. it only takes 1.
marble falls
(71,946 posts)... and Judges have been sent to prison by jurors.
Jurors get vetted. Keep remembering: This is Fulton County. This is a good judge with a good record. This is Fanni Willis a good prosecutor with a good record and this TFG who hasn't denied what he's done - only why he's done it. What you suggest is jury tampering and it isn't going to happen with this court and prosecution.
rampartc
(5,835 posts)could manson have been convicted if squeaky fromm had been on the jury?
marble falls
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rampartc
(5,835 posts)and i'm about to concede this point, but, do any of those cults number in the 10s of millions and include judges, governors and generals?
we obviously must be prepared for violence, and always remember that any violence will be broadcast as our fault.
marble falls
(71,946 posts)... and Fanni Smith are. There is at least one more indictment coming. No one can throw that many prosecutions with the quality of judges and prosecutors that are pushing the criminal proceedings along. Stay calm!

There is a pretty good list of convicted high ranking public officials if You need me to post it.
The DOJ, Merrick Garland, Jack Smith, Fanni Willis, Alvin Bragg got this!!!! TFG's not getting away, he will not be running for office again.
We don't need to give him vigilante justice, the law covers his crimes and the justice system is working. We aren't getting even, society is exacting justice.