Republican candidate essentially endorsed the Sandy Hook truther position!

[yortsed snacilbuper]

[maddiemom]

1. A transcript, if not a better film. Some explanation as to what this is all about.

I'm not finding info on national news. Please explain.

[yortsed snacilbuper]

2. I'm sorry you can't understand,it's not a national election,MSM didn't cover it!

televised local debate, in front of an audience of interested voters and party loyalists.

link

[maddiemom]

3. Thanks. I do remember some "Sandy Hook truther" insanity stuff last year, and just re-checked it.

You're saying a local candidate is dragging this up NOW? Is this still being a big deal today (besides this candidate)? I can understand your being distressed, but many of us elsewhere didn't know it was strongly going on. Hope this local nut loses big time!

[yortsed snacilbuper]

4. The guy's name is Dr. Tom Ready, a dentist, and his Democratic opponent is the incumbent Sal Pace,

who's served in various elected positions including the Colorado state legislature.Ready claimed that there is no proof that Sandy Hook actually happened.

Ready posted on facebook that Sandy Hook never happened and the Government made it up, he deleted it from facebook already and the local news is planning to delete this video so I wanted people to get a look before it disappears, even though the video is hard to watch!

[daleanime]

5. ........

[czarjak]

6. Not called the Stupid Party for nothing.

A dentist? Don't think I want him working on me.

[Zephyranth]

7. Genuine cover-up; different reason

The real reason for the very real cover-up of the Sandy Hook School shooting details likely stems from 1) the gunshots fired long after the "final" shot and 2) the critical ambulance shortage and blocked ambulance route.

Danbury State's Atty Stephen Sedensky, who bore ultimate responsibility for the final report, went down the well-traveled road for example of editing 911 call audio (i.e. tampering with evidence) to omit the late shots, and other garbage you might expect from a lawyer (which in all fairness was, simply, his job).

As for the blocked roads, the CT Police Chiefs Association review of the Newtown Police Department originally included a section on the serious road blockage and how it prevented ambulance travel; this section was omitted in the publicly-released version of the report. We know it once existed, because Connecticut reporter Bob Wilson read, live, from the missing section, even describing which units in particular (SWAT) had contributed to the possibly-fatal egress blockage.

Of course there's a cover-up...the story was handled by lawyers. They are going to limit liability to the very greatest extent possible, to include tricking parents into signing away rights to view documents on their own child's death (which they did).

Sandy Hook SHOULD be re-investigated, by an outside agency, but for different reasons than Ready is suggesting.

[uppityperson]

8. Welcome to DU. Are you saying the incident happened, but the errors in the response were covered up?

I am not sure what you are saying. Thanks for clarifying.

http://ideas.time.com/2013/12/04/why-its-important-to-listen-to-the-sandy-hook-911-tapes/

Today, nearly a year after Adam Lanza murdered 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., officials finally released recordings of 911 calls made from the scene of that horrifying crime. The long delay was due to opposition by the state’s attorney Stephen Sedensky, who oversaw the investigation of the massacre and in the process became so concerned about the feelings of victims’ families that he lost sight of his legal obligations. Sedensky fell far short of showing that the 911 recordings qualified for any of the recognized exceptions to Connecticut’s Freedom of Information Act, which creates a presumption in favor of making public records public.

There are important reasons for that presumption, starting with the premise that government accountability requires transparency. As Superior Court Judge Eliot Prescott observed last week when he rejected Sedensky’s effort to keep the Sandy Hook calls under wraps, “release of the audio recordings will assist the public in gauging the appropriateness of law enforcement’s response.” The recordings also can help the public judge the propriety of legislative responses to the massacre, such as limits on the size of ammunition magazines. The sound of gunshots in the background of the calls is one piece of evidence concerning the pace at which Lanza fired his rifle, which illuminates the question of whether the seconds needed to switch magazines could have made an important difference in the deadliness of his assault.

[Zephyranth]

9. Something happened, and the response faced multiple problems which are imo being covered up

The reality is that there are so many questions surrounding Sandy Hook that it's almost impossible to take a thoroughly-reasoned position; however, the one I currently think most tenable is that the emergency response to Sandy Hook--both by law enforcement and medical personnel--faced serious problems and that it is these problems which are the biggest cause for any cover-up.

I don't rule out the participation of additional shooters, and never have. An escaped second (and possibly even third, according to some officers on scene) accomplice would be incredibly embarrassing; it would be a logical temptation to stifle information on that point, and would explain why Sedensky stated witnesses remained in danger from potentially-involved parties.

So in addition to whatever crime was committed by the original perpetrator(s), we now have very real secondary crimes, I believe, being committed in the cover-up.

Sedensky was ordered by Judge Prescott, for example, to release the 911 calls; we know from evidence contained in the report itself that the 911 calls released to the public had been altered prior to their release. The call made by custodian Rick Thorne, for example, was three minutes longer when the investigation's audio expert Paul Ginsberg analyzed it to count gunshots--the original length is cited in Ginsberg's report. By the time that same call was released per Judge Prescott's order, it had been chopped into three pieces--with time missing in between each piece--and with the final three minutes lopped off.

Incidentally, the end-lopping removes the point in time at which NPD officer Lenny Penna said he heard one final shot--9:51:31 a.m., eleven and a half minutes later than the official "final" shot at 9:40:03.

It's a mess.

[arcane1]

10. Interestting. Do you have links for this?

[uppityperson]

11. What blocked ambulance route, link to what you are saying would be nice.

"emergency response to Sandy Hook--both by law enforcement and medical personnel--faced serious problems"

What serious problems? Link? I have done a search and all I come up with is people saying what you are but no links to any real source. If you have one, please post it. Thank you.

[Zephyranth]

13. Misposted

Apologies, uppityperson--I meant to reply to you but apparently don't have the DU skillz yet and put it in the wrong place:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1017&pid=215024

[Zephyranth]

12. Road blockage (and late gunshots) info is in final report

This news piece on the release of the CT Police Chiefs Association's review of NPD's response to Sandy Hook mentions, at the end of it, the road blockage problem. The newscaster, referring to that CPCA report, states that it indicates road blockage made it hard for ambulances to get in and out, and even cites specific units that contributed to the problem, such as SWAT. But there is no such reference in the shortened public version of the CPCA report. Here's the news piece:

And here's the document he's allegedly reading from:

https://www.cpcanet.org/site/assets/files/1144/cpca_newtown_report_final.pdf

All reference to the road blockage has been removed.

Multiple officers referred to the road blockage, including CSP Sgt. Bill Cario, who said the mouth to the parking lot was blocked by approximately 10 a.m. when he attempted to remove an injured child from the scene and had to jump the curb to get around the blockage.

His report, along with hundreds of other witness reports, audio documents, and visual documents, is available in the (incomplete) final report, downloadable from the ct.gov website:

http://cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov/

Cario's report is document 00026724.