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Epstein's Brother Blows Up White House's Story on Trump's Innocence
UH OH! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------The president was never in his office, said Steven Cheung, the White House communications director, in July.
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As part of his attempts to minimize his relationship with Epstein, who died by suicide while awaiting trial in 2019, the White House claimed this summer that Trump had never been in the financiers workplace on Madison Avenue in New York. The president was never in his office, said Steven Cheung, the White House communications director, in July.
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However, Epsteins own brother, Mark, told The New York Times in a report published Thursday that the future president was in the office all the time back then.
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The office on Madison Avenue, according to Epstein aides from that era, served as the venue for disturbing sexual phone calls between the president and his friend that sometimes drew in innocent bystanders.
A former assistant to Epstein recalled that, when all the other colleagues had gone home, the financier would put Trump, then a well-known businessman but not yet a TV star, on speakerphone so the assistant could hear their locker room talk. Trump would then reportedly regale Epstein with his sexual conquests as the financier enjoyed the fact that it made his female employee visibly uncomfortable.
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/epsteins-brother-blows-up-white-houses-story-on-trumps-innocence/
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Epstein's Brother Blows Up White House's Story on Trump's Innocence (Original Post)
Uncle Joe
Friday
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Link to full NYT article - 'Don's Best Friend': How Epstein and Trump Bonded Over the Pursuit of Women
cliffside
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cliffside
(1,580 posts)1. Link to full NYT article - 'Don's Best Friend': How Epstein and Trump Bonded Over the Pursuit of Women
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/18/us/jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.908.BlAH.oMvdrvXAcC6b&smid=url-share
By Nicholas Confessore and Julie Tate
"The Times interviewed more than 30 former employees of Jeffrey Epstein, victims of his abuse and others who crossed paths with Mr. Epstein and President Trump. The Times also obtained new documents that illuminate their relationship..."
... Beginning in the late 1980s, the two men forged a bond intense enough to leave others who knew them with the impression that they were each others closest friend, The Times found. Mr. Epstein was then a little-known financier who cultivated mystery around the scope and source of his self-made wealth. Mr. Trump, six years older, was a real estate scion who relished publicity and exaggerated his successes. Neither man drank or did drugs. They pursued women in a game of ego and dominance. Female bodies were currency.
Over nearly two decades, as Mr. Trump cut a swath through the party circuits of New York and Florida, Mr. Epstein was perhaps his most reliable wingman. During the 1990s and early 2000s, they prowled Mr. Epsteins Manhattan mansion and Mr. Trumps Plaza Hotel, at least one of Mr. Trumps Atlantic City casinos and both their Palm Beach homes. They visited each others offices and spoke often by phone, according to other former Epstein employees and women who spent time in his homes.
With other men, Mr. Epstein might discuss tax shelters, international affairs or neuroscience. With Mr. Trump, he talked about sex..."
By Nicholas Confessore and Julie Tate
"The Times interviewed more than 30 former employees of Jeffrey Epstein, victims of his abuse and others who crossed paths with Mr. Epstein and President Trump. The Times also obtained new documents that illuminate their relationship..."
... Beginning in the late 1980s, the two men forged a bond intense enough to leave others who knew them with the impression that they were each others closest friend, The Times found. Mr. Epstein was then a little-known financier who cultivated mystery around the scope and source of his self-made wealth. Mr. Trump, six years older, was a real estate scion who relished publicity and exaggerated his successes. Neither man drank or did drugs. They pursued women in a game of ego and dominance. Female bodies were currency.
Over nearly two decades, as Mr. Trump cut a swath through the party circuits of New York and Florida, Mr. Epstein was perhaps his most reliable wingman. During the 1990s and early 2000s, they prowled Mr. Epsteins Manhattan mansion and Mr. Trumps Plaza Hotel, at least one of Mr. Trumps Atlantic City casinos and both their Palm Beach homes. They visited each others offices and spoke often by phone, according to other former Epstein employees and women who spent time in his homes.
With other men, Mr. Epstein might discuss tax shelters, international affairs or neuroscience. With Mr. Trump, he talked about sex..."
RainCaster
(13,367 posts)4. poorly named article, they were in pursuit of little girls, not women
Skittles
(169,244 posts)6. yes, and they make it sound like normal guys trying to get lucky
disgusting
SunSeeker
(57,441 posts)2. No, Daily Beast, it's not "locker room talk." It's sexual harrassment of the female employees.
BurnDoubt
(1,386 posts)3. ...And maybe...
"is said to have died by suicide might be more accurate, owing to how convenient it was (for lots of people)..
eppur_se_muova
(40,865 posts)5. Make it "purported to", just to stir up the slow-witted readers. nt
Wednesdays
(21,546 posts)7. K&R. nt
Ziggysmom
(4,017 posts)8. Hope his brother Mark is being careful. He could easily end up being unalived
like Jeffrey.
Bengus81
(9,758 posts)9. Guarantee anyone including Fat Hitler, he HAS the receipt's
Kid Berwyn
(22,729 posts)10. Treating women as things to be had.
Like America.
PatSeg
(51,974 posts)11. They just lie about anything
Creating their own truth as they go.
AZ8theist
(7,055 posts)12. ALLEGEDLY died by "suicide"....
If we had an actual JD in this country, I bet the story would be much different.
barbtries
(31,096 posts)13. i believe
that krasnov was not only a customer, but a partner. The financials if they are ever exposed and disentangled, according to my theory, will make this very clear.