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Sun Nov 3, 2024, 05:52 PM Nov 3

How the Antiabortion Movement Became a Cause Without a Candidate - WSJ

A couple of hours after Donald Trump suggested in August that he would vote for a Florida ballot measure to protect abortion rights, a handful of irate antiabortion leaders got on the phone with one of his top advisers, determined to pressure the former president to walk it back. In a tense call, Kristan Hawkins, president of Students for Life Action, laid down her group’s position to the adviser: “This is a line you cannot cross.” She said if Trump voted in favor of such a measure, he would lose social conservative voters in the presidential election. “At that point there would be no difference between him and Kamala,” Hawkins said, referring to the Democratic nominee, Vice President Kamala Harris.

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The next day, the campaign said Trump, a Florida resident, would in fact oppose the measure.

The victory was limited. Deep fractures have grown between Trump and abortion opponents, who just two years ago were on top of the world after the Supreme Court overruled Roe v. Wade and eliminated a constitutional right to the procedure. The ruling was the culmination of the movement’s unlikely relationship with Trump. The onetime abortion-rights supporter appointed three conservative justices who helped overturn Roe and was the first sitting president to attend the annual March for Life.

That relationship is now in tatters, and the movement to end abortion in America finds itself struggling not to be written off as a political liability by Trump and the Republican Party, which are facing a public backlash to the rollback of abortion access. Antiabortion groups also have lost seven consecutive ballot referendums and appear on track to lose most of the 10 measures to protect abortion rights that are on state ballots in this election, including in conservative states such as Florida and Missouri.

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Trump publicly blamed abortion restrictions for costing the GOP critical votes in the November 2022 midterms, months after the Supreme Court decision. Democrats retained control of the Senate and performed better than expected in House races. He said Republicans poorly handled the issue in the midterms, and on social media in 2023 he disparaged advocates’ ability to succeed on their agenda. “Pro lifers had absolutely zero status on the subject of abortion until I came along,” Trump wrote. “Before our victory, they had nothing, and they will have nothing again if we don’t win ELECTIONS.”

This year, in an August social-media post, he said his administration “will be great for women and their reproductive rights.” It was one of a series of indignities that have left abortion opponents frustrated and scrambling to avoid losing much of the ground they gained. They’re also split on whether to tell their supporters to drop Trump.

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How the Antiabortion Movement Became a Cause Without a Candidate - WSJ (Original Post) question everything Nov 3 OP
Maybe women dying isn't helping their cause? Freddie Nov 3 #1
The anti-abortion movement will continue to have a chokehold on the Republican Party Vogon_Glory Nov 3 #2
the dog finally caught the car Skittles Nov 3 #3
They also don't like the follow-up legislation Vogon_Glory Nov 4 #5
correct Skittles Nov 4 #6
Dolt 45 doesn't give a rat's rear about abortion. Dulcinea Nov 4 #4

Vogon_Glory

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2. The anti-abortion movement will continue to have a chokehold on the Republican Party
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 06:51 PM
Nov 3

for years to come. No matter what a losing game banning abortion and restricting access to contraceptives may be in general elections, the anti-abortion movement will remain firmly in control of state and local Republican Party machinery, and ambitious Republican politicians will have to do what they’re told if they want to win in the primaries.

Defeating these zealots is going to take at least a full generation, maybe two, and there might not be a Republican Party at the end of it.

Skittles

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3. the dog finally caught the car
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:54 PM
Nov 3

"be careful what you wish for"

turns out Americans aren't so keen on fascism

Vogon_Glory

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5. They also don't like the follow-up legislation
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 03:48 PM
Nov 4

the anti-abortion fanatics want to foist on us: not only banning contraceptives, but also monitoring women’s menstrual cycles and restricting interstate and international travel.

Dulcinea

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4. Dolt 45 doesn't give a rat's rear about abortion.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 08:00 AM
Nov 4

He cares about staying out of prison & political oblivion, which I hope & pray happens in the next 48 hours.

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