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suegeo

(2,828 posts)
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 11:24 AM Aug 2024

The US Secret Service did not retrieve the radios that were set aside for them by Butler County tactical command.

Congressman Clay Higgins (R-Louisiana) travelled to the PA farm show site. He recently (Aug. 15, 2024) released a report he wrote for the chair of the committee he's on.

https://clayhiggins.house.gov/2024/08/15/higgins-releases-preliminary-investigative-report/

Link to BBC article on MSN, that had me google the report itself.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/sniper-shot-trump-gunmans-weapon-and-delayed-him-report/ar-AA1oV4eZ?ocid=BingNewsVerp

I read the BBC report--and the Higgins report itself-- and found the following to be interesting.

The US Secret Service did not retrieve the radios that were set aside for them by Butler County tactical command. That's suspicious in many ways.

The 9th shot fired on July 13 was from a Butler SWAT operator from the ground, about 100 yards away from the AGR building. This shot hit Crooks’ pew pew stock (I don't want to use the g-word, as I try to follow the rules very carefully on this fine forum). The pew pew stock broke up fragments grazed Crooks' face/neck/right shoulder.

The FBI released the body for cremation 10 days after July 13, so July 23.

Along with the cremation, the GOP Congressman is upset with the FBI because:
1) The FBI cleaned up the biological evidence from the crime scene.
2) The FBI released the crime scene itself after 3 days.
The GOP Congressman alleges that the FBI was obstructing the investigation.

The FBI claps back at Higgins' suggestion that FBI was obstructing:
]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fbi-surprised-and-disturbed-by-congressmans-allegation-of-obstruction-in-butler-probe/ar-AA1oTgeB?ocid=BingNewsVerp

The secret service not picking up the radios was a huge mistake.
Had the secret service picked up the radios, as they were reminded to do, they would have heard the chatter about a guy on a roof running. They could have swept that Russian asset off the stage before shots rang out.

But then, the puppet would not have gotten his picture taken.

Communication failed, which was not the fault of the locals. Bad communication, no local radios, and spotty cell service foiled attempts to stop the shooter.

Not in the report, but body cam footage of the cop--who hoisted himself onto the roof before Crooks fired bullets from his pew pew--had the cop swearing. The cop was swearing something like “I told them to put snipers back here when I met with the SS on Tuesday. I told them so.” Paraphrased.

The secret service said they would put snipers there, but oops, the secret service didn’t put anybody on the roof.

P.S. I hate how the GOP/fascists are calling it J13. They are doing this on purpose, to deflect from J6 insurrection. In his report, Higgins doesn't note any of the August dates as A15 or A12. But he does NOT write out J12, J23, etc.


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The US Secret Service did not retrieve the radios that were set aside for them by Butler County tactical command. (Original Post) suegeo Aug 2024 OP
Maybe this failure is why the Secret Service accepted responsibility for the incident FakeNoose Aug 2024 #1
And now the Secret Service has actually moved some of Biden's detail to Trump! Lonestarblue Aug 2024 #6
This irritates the hell out of me n/t Lulu KC Aug 2024 #9
I hadn't heard but you're completely correct FakeNoose Aug 2024 #13
Accept responsibility to sweep things under the rug? orthoclad Aug 2024 #19
where in the world did we come by the idea we were suppose to use words like pew-pew stopdiggin Aug 2024 #2
Really? Lulu KC Aug 2024 #10
More than confused. Scruffy1 Aug 2024 #20
Weapon roscoeroscoe Aug 2024 #21
This is a forbidden word? Lulu KC Aug 2024 #22
Some people who write in national publications roscoeroscoe Aug 2024 #23
and we DO know who this Clay Higgins is ? (at least I hope .. ?) stopdiggin Aug 2024 #3
A Repuke from Louisiana FakeNoose Aug 2024 #14
yep. well, not ENTIRELY. with Higgins standing out as a card carrying member of the wingnut division. stopdiggin Aug 2024 #16
I guess the part that sort of baffles me moniss Aug 2024 #4
Officer wildflowergardener Aug 2024 #7
and 'radioing it in' was the best he could manage stopdiggin Aug 2024 #17
The disconnect was when he reported it on the 2way radio and the secret service weren't listening FakeNoose Aug 2024 #15
not sure if I buy 'reporting it' stopdiggin Aug 2024 #18
Open carry of a rifle is legal there. Shipwack Aug 2024 #24
VP Biden LessAspin Aug 2024 #5
I wish I knew what pew pew means Lulu KC Aug 2024 #8
Kick. Clay Higgins is apparently a far right-wing kook suegeo Aug 2024 #11
House Bi-Partisan Task Force on the Attempted Assassination of Former Pres. DT. suegeo Aug 2024 #12

FakeNoose

(35,712 posts)
1. Maybe this failure is why the Secret Service accepted responsibility for the incident
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 11:45 AM
Aug 2024

... rather than try to throw blame on the local authorities?

As I understand it, Chump is still hand-picking the security team that surrounds him even 4 years after leaving the White House. Like everything else he chooses people not for their training and abilities, but for their willingness to smooch his ass.

Lonestarblue

(11,840 posts)
6. And now the Secret Service has actually moved some of Biden's detail to Trump!
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 12:26 PM
Aug 2024

The excuse given was that Biden is not traveling as much. It seems better to me to thoroughly protect the current president of the United States, who has the job for another five months, than to surround one campaigner with so many agents.

FakeNoose

(35,712 posts)
13. I hadn't heard but you're completely correct
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 06:10 PM
Aug 2024

Where do they get off, deciding that a former president is more urgently in need of protection than the current president?

What if this had happened in 2019 or 2020, and what if they had put more agents on Obama and left Chump with less protection? We can imagine the uproar that would have caused.

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
19. Accept responsibility to sweep things under the rug?
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 08:17 PM
Aug 2024

Nah, the people who wiped their phones after J6 would never do anything dishonest.

stopdiggin

(12,840 posts)
2. where in the world did we come by the idea we were suppose to use words like pew-pew
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 11:47 AM
Aug 2024

instead of 'gun' ?

This shot hit Crooks’ pew pew stock (I don't want to use the g-word, as I try to follow the rules very carefully on this fine forum)

Scruffy1

(3,418 posts)
20. More than confused.
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 09:13 PM
Aug 2024

Dazed, too. It took me a long time to figure what the hell it meant. If it's in the dictionary use it. Same with profanity. the kids already know what the words are.

stopdiggin

(12,840 posts)
3. and we DO know who this Clay Higgins is ? (at least I hope .. ?)
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 11:59 AM
Aug 2024

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stopdiggin

(12,840 posts)
16. yep. well, not ENTIRELY. with Higgins standing out as a card carrying member of the wingnut division.
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 08:04 PM
Aug 2024

For instance, here (in congressional hearings!) testifying on the evidence of 'ghost buses', supposedly filled with 'FBI informants dressed as Trump supporters' ... And it pretty much goes straight downhill from there ...

https://www.jefftiedrich.com/p/sporky-and-the-space-nazi-get-screwed

And my point being - we're using this cat as a creditable source ??

( The assassination attempt is fast morphing into our latest conspiracy bug. The only trouble is - we are so utterly steeped in conspiracy bugaboo these days ... It's hard to tell one one leaves off, and another picks up. But let's try to do just a little better here on DU? )

moniss

(5,756 posts)
4. I guess the part that sort of baffles me
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 12:04 PM
Aug 2024

is the armed cop who hoisted himself up, saw an obviously unauthorized man with a gun, then lowered himself down because according to his statement he feared for his safety but supposedly he doesn't get blame for not trying to stop him/shoot him? Why give these guys guns then if all they are is recon and run? I understand being afraid for your life but taking action to remove a threat even in the face of personal danger is what you signed up for. He could have engaged the guy and even if he had missed the sound of gunfire would have raised the alarm and gotten action faster than bitching on the radio.

wildflowergardener

(992 posts)
7. Officer
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 12:57 PM
Aug 2024

What I had heard is he had boosted up using both of his arms to see what was going on so could not physically grab his gun at that moment as he was hanging from the roof with both arms and they did not have a ladder

stopdiggin

(12,840 posts)
17. and 'radioing it in' was the best he could manage
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 08:09 PM
Aug 2024

from there on out?
You wouldn't have been tearing that damned building down to get back up on that roof .. ?

FakeNoose

(35,712 posts)
15. The disconnect was when he reported it on the 2way radio and the secret service weren't listening
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 06:15 PM
Aug 2024

They never got the radios that were issued so they could communicate with the local authorities.

It sounds like the local cop did his job when he reported it, and they didn't follow through.

stopdiggin

(12,840 posts)
18. not sure if I buy 'reporting it'
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 08:15 PM
Aug 2024

as an adequate performance of duties ... Maybe a little urgency? Renewed effort?

Shipwack

(2,311 posts)
24. Open carry of a rifle is legal there.
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 12:26 PM
Aug 2024

So since it was a white guy with a gun there was no sense of urgency.

Now, if it had been a black man with a rifle, or even a black child with a toy rifle, or a black man who admitted to having a handgun in a glove compartment, or an elderly black woman near a pot of boiling water…

That’s grounds for summary execution.

[Only being half sarcastic, unfortunately]

suegeo

(2,828 posts)
11. Kick. Clay Higgins is apparently a far right-wing kook
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 02:44 PM
Aug 2024

something something ghost bus January 6 2021
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/nov/21/clay-higgins/why-a-republicans-claim-about-ghost-buses-of-fbi-i/

Higgins expounded. "These (ghost) buses are nefarious in nature and were filled with FBI informants dressed as Trump supporters, deployed onto our Capitol on Jan. 6," Higgins said.


His Wikipedia page says he's appeared and spoken at events organized by groups such as the Three Percenters and the Oath Keepers.

suegeo

(2,828 posts)
12. House Bi-Partisan Task Force on the Attempted Assassination of Former Pres. DT.
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 02:51 PM
Aug 2024

The report he submitted was for the House Bi-Partisan Task Force on the Attempted Assassination of Former Pres. DT.

Democrats on the committee:
Jason Crow CO Ranking member
Lou Correa CA (I like this guy, sharp, from what little I've seen)
Madeleine Dean PA
Chrissy Houlahan PA
Glen Ivey Maryland
Jared Moskowitz Fla.

Douche bags on the committee:
Mike Kelly PA chair
Mark Green TN
David Joyce Ohio
Laurel Lee Floriduh
Mike Walta Floriduh
Clay Higgins Louisiana
Pat Fallon TX

The Final Report is to be released Dec. 13, 2024

Why is clay such a whiner? He is no pathologist, doctor. He was a used car salesman. What could he possibly add to the discussion by viewing the dead body? Ghoul.

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