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BlueWavePsych

(3,056 posts)
Mon Jul 1, 2024, 05:20 PM Jul 2024

What is presidential immunity? The get out of jail free card Biden could use to assassinate Trump

Sonia Sotomayor, an associate justice who dissented from the court’s opinion, claimed the ruling would give presidents the power to assassinate political enemies.

“Orders the Navy’s Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. Organises a military coup to hold onto power? Immune,” she said.

Some of the more extreme commentators on social media urged Joe Biden, the US president, to assassinate Trump and launch a drone attack on the supreme court.

Assassinating a rival would only be consistent with the court’s ruling if it fell within the president’s official acts.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/07/01/joe-biden-donald-trump-immunity-us-election-2024/

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What is presidential immunity? The get out of jail free card Biden could use to assassinate Trump (Original Post) BlueWavePsych Jul 2024 OP
Lets stop this now snowybirdie Jul 2024 #1
The genie is out and all over mainstream news ... BlueWavePsych Jul 2024 #2
Not only would it have to fall into 'official acts' for him to avoid prosecution, Presidential kelly1mm Jul 2024 #3
Persons acting on the President's behalf can be pardoned. BlueWavePsych Jul 2024 #4
By the President for federal crimes. nt kelly1mm Jul 2024 #5

snowybirdie

(5,651 posts)
1. Lets stop this now
Mon Jul 1, 2024, 05:24 PM
Jul 2024

Talk of Biden assassinating anyone is dangerous and ridiculous. He's a good, moral man who would not pursue this dumb track of thinking. He and we DUrs are better than that!

BlueWavePsych

(3,056 posts)
2. The genie is out and all over mainstream news ...
Mon Jul 1, 2024, 05:28 PM
Jul 2024
Hypothetical SEAL Team 6 political assassination resurfaces in Supreme Court presidential immunity dissent

Could a commander in chief order SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival and not face criminal prosecution? That is the provocative hypothetical raised by two Supreme Court justices in their dissents on the high court's ruling regarding former President Donald Trump's immunity case.

The Supreme Court on Monday said former presidents are entitled to some protections for "official" acts, though said there is no immunity for "unofficial" acts -- rejecting Trump's sweeping claim of "absolute" immunity from criminal prosecution in his federal election subversion case.

"This new official-acts immunity now 'lies about like a loaded weapon' for any President that wishes to place his own interests, his own political survival, or his own financial gain, above the interests of the Nation," Sotomayor wrote in her dissent.

When the president "uses his official powers in any way, under the majority's reasoning, he now will be insulated from criminal prosecution," she continued. "Orders the Navy's Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/seal-team-6-assassination-hypothetical-scotus-presidential-immunity/story?id=111583216

kelly1mm

(5,280 posts)
3. Not only would it have to fall into 'official acts' for him to avoid prosecution, Presidential
Mon Jul 1, 2024, 05:30 PM
Jul 2024

immunity is personal to the individual. Meaning his immunity would not extend to the actual people 'doing the deed'.

The actions of the President are still subject to judicial review. This immunity holding only applies to the President having criminal/civil liability protections personally. His actions (like ordering there be 13 USSC justices) can still be struck down by the Court.

Now if the President was willing to walk up to an opponent and shoot them in the head him/herself (and be on federal property at the time) then in theory he/she could not be criminally prosecuted. He/she could still be impeached and convicted and I certainly hope that would occur regardless of the party holding the Presidency at that time.

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