Bernie Sanders urges left to back Biden to stop 'very dangerous' Trump
Leftwing senator advises unification of progressive people in general because threat from Republican ex-president is too great
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Were taking on the former president, who, in fact, does not believe in democracy he is an authoritarian, and a very, very dangerous person, the senator and Vermont independent, who caucuses with Democrats, said on NBCs Meet the Press. I think at this moment there has to be unification of progressive people in general in all of this country.
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Sanders himself was the runner-up for the Democratic nomination in the 2016 White House race won by Trump and in 2020, with West among his supporters. But Sanders this time quickly endorsed Bidens re-election campaign, a decision which prompted West to accuse him of only backing Biden because he is fearful of the neo-fascism of Trump.
The senator responded to that criticism on Sunday on CNNs State of the Union, saying, Where I disagree with my good friend Cornel West is I think, in these really very difficult times, there is a real question whether democracy is going to remain in the United States of America.
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Sanders nonetheless said he planned to push Biden to tackle corporate greed and the massive levels of income and wealth inequality across the US. On Meet the Press, he suggested he would urge Biden to take on the billionaire class.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/28/bernie-sanders-democrats-support-biden-trump-2024
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,685 posts)Honey, not vinegar.
Attacking the personality is cheap. I just think he's passionate about his political beliefs and is using a venue made available to him by the tenets of democracy. West has some very poignant points he brings up. Policies we all would love to see. He'd be perfect running in a proportional representation system like Germany. Its just that for this first-past-the-post system of democracy, the timing is probably never right for a third party from the left. If Democrats were comfortably winning regardless, I'd love to have Cornell stir the pot with a seat in Washington. Its actually a shame the system cannot accommodate him how its structured. Its especially not welcome in the next federal election. Bernie is right to raise the alarm.
I hope Bernie can talk some sense into him.
Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)He just doesn't care. He's more anti-Democrat than he is anti-GOP or anti-Trump. It's clear that he wants to "punish" the Democratic party and intentionally BE the spoiler. Stop defending him. Stop justifying and validating him. He's toxic.
usonian
(25,310 posts)Progressives have gotten a whole lot, and benefitted everyone. What a diverse and dedicated team!
Joe knows.
Aristus
(72,182 posts)At least it's not more 'We need Trump in there to speed the revolution!" horseshit...
Doc Sportello
(7,964 posts)I've never seen it. He fully supported Clinton in 2016 (endorsing her in July) and Biden in 2020 and has voted with him 91 percent of the time according to 538.
Aristus
(72,182 posts)People like Susan Sarandon, who think torpedoing the candidacy of mainstream Democrats is somehow 'free-thinking'. Well, she wanted Trump, and she got him. Unfortunately, so did the rest of us.
No matter how badly you want an independent candidate, if you're progressive, liberal, etc, the Democratic candidate is our best hope.
Lunabell
(7,309 posts)or stein. It's very insulting. He is actually for the people and has proven his desire to help modern Americans.
Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)-- they're actually doing Bernie no favors, are they? For the casual observer watching those fickle butterflies, it's quite easy to "lump" together those candidates into a certain group or wing or belief system when high-profile people, like the ones mentioned, can't even seem to make up their OWN minds which one to be loyal to, or which one to support.
> It's very insulting.
Really? Why? You shouldn't be. I'm sure that Bernie can take it. That's the nature of politics. I'm sure he's got a thick skin after all these years in the public eye.
pnwmom
(110,260 posts)Hillary in the spring, as soon as it was clear she'd won a majority of delegates. Instead, he held off endorsing her till just before the convention in July, which many of his followers attended (and protested at), hoping that somehow he'd pull off a win. Then he still didn't campaign for her till September and October, after taking July and August off to write a book. He did a handful of events for her in each of those months.
But, yes, he has fully supported Biden. I guess he underestimated Trump's peril before but he understands it now.
Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)Although I'm not a seasoned politician, and although I don't have many years in office, it certainly seems obvious to me what the consequences are for that type of behavior and inaction.
1WorldHope
(2,052 posts)BWdem4life
(3,003 posts)I will freely admit to having been all-in for him and having refused to vote for Hillary in my blue state in 2016 as a result of the DNC and superdelegate fiasco. However, I did urge others in swing states to vote for her; and if I had to do it over, I would have voted for her, because every single vote - even in blue or red states in which they could not have changed the outcome - added to the delegitimization of Trump's victory.
pnwmom
(110,260 posts)to the Democratic winner.
Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)dalton99a
(94,114 posts)led by an outright traitor who is hell bent on destroying our country
The above is a factual statement, not a hyperbole
It is a very serious situation
twodogsbarking
(18,777 posts)Initech
(108,777 posts)If given a second term, Trump would commit some absolutely unspeakable atrocities, which would include things like mass murder and mass imprisonment.
twodogsbarking
(18,777 posts)I think he would do things most people cannot imagine. He has people with him.
Convict him.
Initech
(108,777 posts)Trump wouldn't exist without the Steve Bannons, Sean Hannitys, and Tucker Carlsons aiding and abetting his every move. They are as evil as he is.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Initech
(108,777 posts)We have to stop this at all costs. The GOP will act out their wildest revenge fantasies and there will be no one to stop them.
Vote Biden like your life depends on it. Fuck Trump, the MAGAs, and Fox News.
Evolve Dammit
(21,774 posts)Fresh Water Falling
(237 posts)Now is not the fucking time to be experimenting!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Where we are v where we might be. On to 2024.
FakeNoose
(41,631 posts)This is more than political backscratching - this is showing how we get things done. It shows how we can continue to win elections. Bernie Sanders will never be President, and I'm OK with that. Because Presidents know they need to listen to Bernie and work with him whenever possible.
Thank you Bernie Sanders!