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ItsjustMe

(11,971 posts)
Sun Jul 2, 2023, 09:00 PM Jul 2023

Half the Police Force Quit. Crime Dropped.

Half the Police Force Quit. Crime Dropped.

In a staggering report last month, the Department of Justice documented pervasive abuse, illegal use of force, racial bias and systemic dysfunction in the Minneapolis Police Department. City police officers engaged in brutality or made racist comments, even as a department investigator rode along in a patrol car. Complaints about police abuse were often slow-walked or dismissed without investigation. And after George Floyd’s death, instead of ending the policy of racial profiling, the police just buried the evidence.

The Minneapolis report was shocking, but it wasn’t surprising. It doesn’t read much differently from recent Justice Department reports about the police departments in Chicago, Baltimore, Cleveland, Albuquerque, New Orleans, Ferguson, Mo., or any of three recent reports from various sources about Minneapolis, from 2003, 2015 and 2016.
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The Polack MSgt

(13,797 posts)
1. The conclusions are not a surprise - at all - but the whole situation was
Sun Jul 2, 2023, 09:06 PM
Jul 2023

Crazy

Thanks for the share cousin

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
3. Well, I suppose that if you beat the crap out of someone, it is best to then charge them with a
Sun Jul 2, 2023, 09:47 PM
Jul 2023

crime, any crime, any evidence.

keopeli

(3,582 posts)
4. Death by cop was a real fear in Albuquerque for everyone. Then the feds came in.
Sun Jul 2, 2023, 09:48 PM
Jul 2023

When that happened, policing virtually stopped. The police went on a silent strike. Crime rates here have gone up. Only recently, when the feds stopped their regular oversight, have we started seeing policing again. The wheel is still spinning here and I don't know where it will land. There are record murders, death by cop, and crime now that is difficult to get under control, thanks to the police's 'silent strike'.

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
8. We have an opportunity
Mon Jul 3, 2023, 09:00 AM
Jul 2023

We can choose to let the worst actors in abusive departments quit in protest. This will improve the police.
from the NYT article:
"Instead of fighting to retain police officers who feel threatened by accountability and perpetuate that distrust, cities might consider just letting them leave."

In order to encourage the thugs to leave, we should screen people that we trust with weapons and the authority to use them with some tests akin to polygraphs. Measure their involuntary responses to scenes of violence and abuse. Klansmen can lie after "training" sessions and say they have completed diversity training (e.g.), but they can't lie about getting excited over seeing people get beaten and abused.

And screen for steroids. I had to piss in a cup for a minor job, they should do it as well.

We do similar for truck drivers, we should do it for people we trust with lethal force.

Grins

(9,459 posts)
9. Briefly mentioned, but this could be a whole other story...
Mon Jul 3, 2023, 03:24 PM
Jul 2023
“…more police officers can correlate with less crime. But the studies don’t account for factors that the Minneapolis report highlights — the social costs of police brutality and misconduct, how they can erode public trust, how that erosion of trust affects public safety — and they don’t account for the potential benefits of less coercive, less confrontational alternatives to the police. “

Not to leave out the actual costs.

I remember reading about a NYC officer who had a whole bunch of complaints against him that were taken to court. The city had to fork over MILLIONS in judgements against the NYPD. And he wasn’t the only one!
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