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niyad

(132,440 posts)
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 02:07 PM Jul 2022

'With Sorrow, We Dissent': The Three Justices Who Rejected Dobbs

‘With Sorrow, We Dissent’: The Three Justices Who Rejected Dobbs
7/5/2022 by Stephen Rohde


The dissent in Dobbs v. Jackson blasts the conservative justices for overruling Roe and Casey “for one and only one reason: because [they have] always despised them, and now [have] the votes to discard them.”


For the first time in American history, the Supreme Court has rescinded a constitutional right and conferred it on the states where it may be regulated, abolished and criminalized. (Stefani Reynolds / AFP via Getty Images)

In one of the most important dissenting opinions in Supreme Court history, Justices Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan systematically refuted the arrogant, cruel and legally unsound majority opinion written by Justice Samuel Alito in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization eliminating a woman’s constitutional right to an abortion. The masterful 60-page dissent, with extensive legal citations, deserves to be read by everyone who cares about the future of the United States’ constitutional democracy. For the first time in American history, the conservative majority has rescinded a constitutional right and conferred it on the states where it may be regulated, abolished and criminalized.

For half a century, Roe v. Wade and later, Planned Parenthood v. Casey, “have protected the liberty and equality of women,” Breyer, Sotomayor and Kagan wrote.
“Roe held, and Casey reaffirmed, that in the first stages of pregnancy, the government could not make that choice for women. The government could not control a woman’s body or the course of a woman’s life. It could not determine what the woman’s future would be. Respecting a woman as an autonomous being, and granting her full equality, meant giving her substantial choice over this most personal and most consequential of all life decisions.”

The three justices framed the majority opinion of Dobbs as a devastating blow to human rights:

“[The majority] says that from the very moment of fertilization, a woman has no rights to speak of. A State can force her to bring a pregnancy to term, even at the steepest personal and familial costs. Under those laws, a woman will have to bear her rapist’s child or a young girl her father’s—no matter if doing so will destroy her life.”
. . . .

Breyer, Sotomayor and Kagan also warned that “no language in today’s decision stops the Federal Government from prohibiting abortions nationwide, once again from the moment of conception and without exceptions for rape or incest.” The dissent is blunt. “The Court reverses course today for one reason and one reason only: because the composition of this Court has changed,” the three justices wrote. “Stare decisis, this Court has often said, ‘contributes to the actual and perceived integrity of the judicial process’ by ensuring that decisions are ‘founded in the law rather than in the proclivities of individuals.’… Today, the proclivities of individuals rule. The Court departs from its obligation to faithfully and impartially apply the law. We dissent.”

. . . .



Three courageous and compassionate justices have done their part. Now we have to do ours.


https://msmagazine.com/2022/07/05/dobbs-v-jackson-dissent-breyer-sotomayor-kagan-opinion-roe-v-wade/

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'With Sorrow, We Dissent': The Three Justices Who Rejected Dobbs (Original Post) niyad Jul 2022 OP
This whole fetal personhood crap is just that...crap. patphil Jul 2022 #1
absolutely agree. niyad Jul 2022 #2
I wish there were a way to rec comments slightlv Jul 2022 #3
Absolutely: a woman's already lived life is worth way more than a fetus: pontential human being. electric_blue68 Jul 2022 #4

patphil

(9,067 posts)
1. This whole fetal personhood crap is just that...crap.
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 02:36 PM
Jul 2022

A fetus is a part of a woman's body. It normally develops into a baby, but it isn't a baby until the woman gives birth.
It becomes a human child when it takes it's first independent breath.

The woman has the inherent right to decide whether or not she wishes to continue the development of the fetus until birth, or abort the development process.
Since the actual moment when that baby can breath on it's own, or with medical aid, is not exactly known, it's best to error on the side of having an abortion performed well before that point.
After that, it's still a decision that should be made with a doctor's advice, if continuation of the pregnancy would be a threat to the woman's health, or if the fetus is determined to have developmental issues that would result in a poor quality of life, or very short life if it continued to term.

I feel that abortion is not a sin, it is simply a decision the woman has a right to make. The sin is in forcing the woman to carry to term and give birth against her wishes.
It is an act of violence against a woman. There is a lot of hate inherent in forcing a woman to carry that fetus to term...a loveless act that is equivalent to reproductive slavery.

slightlv

(7,790 posts)
3. I wish there were a way to rec comments
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 05:18 PM
Jul 2022

I would rec your comment for your phrase "reproductive slavery" alone 1000x.

"Sin" is a manmade concept. Does not apply. Abortion or delivery is a woman's decision to be made by her in consultation (when necessary) with her ob-gyn. Otherwise, it is hers, and hers alone.

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
4. Absolutely: a woman's already lived life is worth way more than a fetus: pontential human being.
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 02:45 AM
Jul 2022
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